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Take up playing bag pipes. Or drums.

Get guineas.

Get some pigs and aim a fan at their window.

She didn't want to offend you. Well HMMM....not the brightest bulb in the fixture, is she?

I got it, I got it...start a skunk breeding farm. Keep the grouchy ones near her property line.
 

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Roll farms said:
Get guineas.
:gig I have one lone guinea left and he drives me INSANE! The neighbors don't complain....I feel like calling the township myself and complaining...
 

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Y'all are the best!

Roll... Love the Skunk idea...! But how would *I* stand it??? :lol:

There's obviously nothing on the books for the state that would trump local ordinances, but I did find this interesting (under their definitions for the Animal Control section of my local ordinance - emphasis added by me):

(a) Animal means a domestic animal kept as a pet or which could be kept as a pet, including but
not limited to a dog, cat, bird, reptile, fish or any other domestic animal. Animal also means
a non-domestic animal if kept as a pet. Animal does not include farm livestock or other
animals kept for the purpose of productive agriculture.


So, I guess that means IT DOES NOT MEAN that my "other animal kept for the purpose of productive agriculture" is included in this section...

Perhaps I should raise hunting dogs?

"Sec. 15.5 Hunting Dogs.
The provisions of this chapter shall not apply to the ordinary and customary use of fully licensed
hunting dogs in the course of lawful hunting and shooting or the training of dogs for hunting
purposes."

But she IS a dog... and here is their specific barking snippet:

"Sec. 15.8 Barking Dogs.
No person owning or having charge, care, custody or control of a dog shall permit such dog at any
time, by loud or frequent or habitual barking, yelping or howling, to cause annoyance to people in the
neighborhood or to persons utilizing the public walks or streets of the neighborhood. "

Really... how subjective can this possibly be? How frequent is frequent? What actually constitutes habitual? Just saying....?

If anyone has any tips or tricks on dealing with townships, I'm open. I AM trying to appease the neighbor in the meantime... I have set up a baby monitor, so if I think there's TOO much barking going on, I WILL intervene. They have my home and cell numbers to call me if the dog is keeping them up, then I should be informed and up as well (frankly, their next recourse is the Sheriff's office, 2nd offense lands me in court, according to dipwad township dork).

Thanks for the support... it's been a really crummy week!
 

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freemotion said:
Roll farms said:
Get guineas.
:gig I have one lone guinea left and he drives me INSANE! The neighbors don't complain....I feel like calling the township myself and complaining...
Just got my first four chickens for mother's day... they're only about 9 weeks old... I don't know anything about guineas... but would LOVE to annoy another neighbor of mine with those.... EVIL, I am! ;)

Free.... I'm on my way for your lone guinea!!! Do I turn left or right???? :hu
 

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I got a bazillion of them if you wanna borrow some. F'real.

I've also had a pet skunk and have raised pigs...and the buck pen is on the property line. *halo*

(See....I really, really don't give a rip if my neighbors hate me.)
 

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I feel for you. Hope this works out in your favor.

Speaking of neighbors...when I moved to my property friends and family asked if I would be raising/keeping pigs.
I told them "I do have pigs. I keep them across the road and they feed themselves." Unfortunately, they can't be butchered!
 

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PJisaMom said:
On second thought... not sure if there's an ordinance against ME yelling "NO!" and "Good Girl!" all night! But I guess we'll give that four months and see how it goes!
:D
Ooooh, I like this plan! Here's what you do -
Call in a bunch of willing helpers who don't mind staying up a couple hours a night shouting their fool heads off, go out in shifts with a bullhorn praising your dog for silence (LOUDLY praising! hehe) and reprimanding (loudly) when she happens to bark. Shifts could be an hour or two. Tell the neighbors you're working on a solution. ;)
 

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PJisaMom said:
Y'all are the best!

Roll... Love the Skunk idea...! But how would *I* stand it??? :lol:

There's obviously nothing on the books for the state that would trump local ordinances, but I did find this interesting (under their definitions for the Animal Control section of my local ordinance - emphasis added by me):

(a) Animal means a domestic animal kept as a pet or which could be kept as a pet, including but
not limited to a dog, cat, bird, reptile, fish or any other domestic animal. Animal also means
a non-domestic animal if kept as a pet. Animal does not include farm livestock or other
animals kept for the purpose of productive agriculture.


So, I guess that means IT DOES NOT MEAN that my "other animal kept for the purpose of productive agriculture" is included in this section...

Perhaps I should raise hunting dogs?

"Sec. 15.5 Hunting Dogs.
The provisions of this chapter shall not apply to the ordinary and customary use of fully licensed
hunting dogs in the course of lawful hunting and shooting or the training of dogs for hunting
purposes."

But she IS a dog... and here is their specific barking snippet:

"Sec. 15.8 Barking Dogs.
No person owning or having charge, care, custody or control of a dog shall permit such dog at any
time, by loud or frequent or habitual barking, yelping or howling, to cause annoyance to people in the
neighborhood or to persons utilizing the public walks or streets of the neighborhood. "

Really... how subjective can this possibly be? How frequent is frequent? What actually constitutes habitual? Just saying....?

If anyone has any tips or tricks on dealing with townships, I'm open. I AM trying to appease the neighbor in the meantime... I have set up a baby monitor, so if I think there's TOO much barking going on, I WILL intervene. They have my home and cell numbers to call me if the dog is keeping them up, then I should be informed and up as well (frankly, their next recourse is the Sheriff's office, 2nd offense lands me in court, according to dipwad township dork).

Thanks for the support... it's been a really crummy week!
One section is gonna trump another...you just have to figure out which it is. Your dog should qualify for "other animals kept for the purpose of productive agriculture."

Your township guy who told you that other people don't use dogs for their goats and sheep really doesn't have a leg to stand on on that argument - just because they don't choose dogs doesn't mean that they don't have a guardian. There are several OPTIONS for a livestock guardian...llama, donkey or dog...you chose dog.

I would check with an attorney or maybe your local extension office could help you.
 

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I feel your pain....

I had a neighbor that starting complaining when we built the barn, then when we put up the fence. She complained about the flies before we actually had gotten any animals. Horses and chickens were purchased. She hated the roosters, didn't like the horse smell. Oh i feel your pain.....

We tried everything to keep the peace.

Eventually, that same neighbor apologize and told us that she was an acoholic and that she was having a really period couple of years and took all of her frustration out on us. She was back on track and apologized. Eventually, she and her husband decided their yard was too much work and they moved. Our new neighbors love our animals.

Is there something going on in this persons life? Maybe talk with her some more.

Guineas will definately make a lot of noise..... But crazy me, I have 12 guinea eggs due to hatch next week.

Good Luck!!
 
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