Baby goat defects - born with Apodia

[nhfarm]

Thanks and I will update when the others birth... by all signs it should be in the next couple of days! This is a very supportive group and I am glad that I joined.

 

[20kidsonhill]

It may have just be nature, and it could have been my error and the Valbazen that were the cause... I for sure am not going to use any wormer in the future that is unsafe during any part of a pregnancy just as a safeguard. Thanks for your thoughts. Is Cydectin safe during all stages of pregnancy?

I have heard of cydectin warnings during pregnancy, but I also know lots of people who use cydectin during pregnancy. I don't know anyone who uses valbazene during pregnancy. I would say, I would avoid all wormers as much as possible the first tri-mester. If you have to worm the first tri-mester go with safegaurd or ivermectin.

 

[elevan]

It may have just be nature, and it could have been my error and the Valbazen that were the cause... I for sure am not going to use any wormer in the future that is unsafe during any part of a pregnancy just as a safeguard. Thanks for your thoughts. Is Cydectin safe during all stages of pregnancy?

I have heard of cydectin warnings during pregnancy, but I also now lots of people who use cydectin during pregnancy. I don't know anyone who uses valbazene during pregnancy. I would say, I would avoid all wormers as much as possible the first tri-mester. If you have to worm the first tri-mester go with safegaurd or ivermectin.

Safeguard and ivermectin are the only dewormers that I will use during pregnancy.

 

[nhfarm]

I agree when I know that my does are breeding I will not worm at all.... or during the first 45 days.... lesson learned
It was just so hot and dry and I had to restrict my goats to a smaller area and so the threat of worms seemed to be worse and so I wanted to make sure that I was protecting them better... go figure!

 

[elevan]

I agree when I know that my does are breeding I will not worm at all.... or during the first 45 days.... lesson learned
It was just so hot and dry and I had to restrict my goats to a smaller area and so the threat of worms seemed to be worse and so I wanted to make sure that I was protecting them better... go figure!

Dewormers are best used as a defense and not an offense (reactively not proactively). Use them because you're dealing with worms, not as a preventative.

For more information on parasite management check out this link: http://www.backyardherds.com/web/viewblog.php?id=2607-parasite-mgmt

I dewormed Daisy (my doe) one month post breeding with both Ivomec and Safeguard and she just gave birth to 2 healthy, beautiful kids. While I second the notion of trying to avoid deworming early in pregnancy, if you need to then use a safe option.

 

[20kidsonhill]

It may have just be nature, and it could have been my error and the Valbazen that were the cause... I for sure am not going to use any wormer in the future that is unsafe during any part of a pregnancy just as a safeguard. Thanks for your thoughts. Is Cydectin safe during all stages of pregnancy?

I have heard of cydectin warnings during pregnancy, but I also now lots of people who use cydectin during pregnancy. I don't know anyone who uses valbazene during pregnancy. I would say, I would avoid all wormers as much as possible the first tri-mester. If you have to worm the first tri-mester go with safegaurd or ivermectin.

Safeguard and ivermectin are the only dewormers that I will use during pregnancy.

unfortunatley ivermectin and safegaurd are not strong enough wormers for our area, so cydectin is a better choice than synanthic, in my opinion, synanthic still works well. there is another one, newer stronger, can't think of it off the top of my head, we haven't used it yet. I want to say something like Prohibit or something like that.

 

[Roll farms]

I'm sorry.

 

[Chickie2378]

You know now. Check your wormers AND anything else you administer on pregnant does.

So much can go wrong if you give that one wrong med.


So sorry this happened. but any learning curve is going to happen on a farm and with birthing. I had my share.




Read up on worming rotation and safety for preg. does. It can only help you. Yes, putting the kid down is obviously the best option.

We learn thru hard situations.



We worm before breeding, hard. Then only worm IF NEEDED thru a fecal on each preg. doe. So if not necessary you are not giving something that is not needed.


Then after birthing we do a fecal and see what is needed and hit for that spectrum of problems if any.

 

[DonnaBelle]

Yes, I'm sure that all of us have learned through our mistakes.

But I do agree with the other posts, it might not have been because of the Valbazen at all. Sometimes things just happen.

We are all thinking about you and hoping the rest of the kiddings go smoothly.

DonnaBelle