Buck with snotty nose, crusty eyes and scours-update 9-22

[babsbag]

I have been told that you have to treat cocci for 15 days and that the preventative is 5 days. Can anyone shed some light on that? Is that true? I was treating 3 adult does and gave up after 7 days, they were getting harder to catch every day. I need to have another fecal done and see if it helped.

I have one doe that has " dog poop" poo all of the time. It seems to be normal for her; her fecals are usually clear, but this time she was shedding some cocci. After 7 days of treatment she still has clumpy poo, but she has had it for 2 years. I have pretty much given up on changing that.

 

[elevan]

I have been told that you have to treat cocci for 15 days and that the preventative is 5 days. Can anyone shed some light on that? Is that true? I was treating 3 adult does and gave up after 7 days, they were getting harder to catch every day. I need to have another fecal done and see if it helped.

I have one doe that has " dog poop" poo all of the time. It seems to be normal for her; her fecals are usually clear, but this time she was shedding some cocci. After 7 days of treatment she still has clumpy poo, but she has had it for 2 years. I have pretty much given up on changing that.

15 days? Wow... what med are you using?

I've never heard anyone suggest a 15 day treatment.

 

[Goatherd]

I have one doe that has " dog poop" poo all of the time. It seems to be normal for her; her fecals are usually clear, but this time she was shedding some cocci. After 7 days of treatment she still has clumpy poo, but she has had it for 2 years. I have pretty much given up on changing that.

My one doe, after kidding, started to have "dog poop" excrement. She was wormed two days after kidding. Unusual poop still continued. I took her stool into the vet for a fecal and there was no appreciable worm load, but small amount of coccidia. I treated her with Albon for 5 days. Dog poop logs continued. Followed with probiotics. Dog poop continued. Had another fecal done and no coccidia present.

Fast forward...I use shredded beet pulp but hadn't given it since she kidded. Started her again on the pulp, stool returned to normal pellets within two days. Coincidence? Maybe. For what it's worth. I don't soak my beet pulp.

 

[jodief100]

Diez is getting better. His snotty nose and goopy eyes are mush improved. Still a little snotty but he is not wheezing anymore. His scours are still just as bad. I thought after three days of spectomyocin and neomycin they would have improved.

Any thoughts?

 

[babsbag]

I use the dimethox 40% injectable. My friend that told me 15 days has been raising goats for YEARS. She actually told me why 15 days, but I was preoccupied with something else at the moment and didn't store it in memory. Another person told me the same.

I can't remember the dosage right now, I know I cut it half after day 1 or 2. It seems like it was 1 cc /10 lbs. after day one, but don't hold me to that.

Is 15 day "forever"?

 

[cmjust0]

I thought after three days of spectomyocin and neomycin they would have improved.

Any thoughts?

Dietary scours don't generally go on this long, and if it was bacterial, it would have improved with that much oral antibiotics. I'm still going with coccidiosis or gut worms.. I'd do DiMethox or Sulmet or SMZ-TMP -- some kind of sulfa -- in conjunction with about three days of Safe-Guard at 1ml/10lbs of bodyweight.

 

[20kidsonhill]

Diez is getting better. His snotty nose and goopy eyes are mush improved. Still a little snotty but he is not wheezing anymore. His scours are still just as bad. I thought after three days of spectomyocin and neomycin they would have improved.

Any thoughts?

get him on sulfa-dimethoxine. I would bet it is cocci. Also worm him with valbazene or safegaurd 3 days in a row.

 

[jodief100]

Thank you. I have been giving him Di-Methox. I will add the Safeguard. He is feeling better. I saw him grazing quite a bit yesterday and I haven't seen him out of his shelter much at all these past few days. He also ate his grain the last two nights.

He took me for a ride this morning while I was giving him his meds. He was fighting me so I had to do the "human head gate" thing and straddle him. The pasture was muddy from the rain and I had no traction. He spun me like a bull at the rodeo for a few turns before he conceded. As much of a pain as it was, it is a good thing. He feels good enough to fight with me.

Thank y'all for the help!

 

[20kidsonhill]

give him B shots daily if you have some, and toward the end of all the treatment hit him up with a couple days of Probios.

Do you have any red cell? Give him a couple good doses of that as well.

 

[cmjust0]

Oh, ok...I thought you were just giving specti/neo. I gotta tell ya, if he's still got the squirts after rounds of spectinomycin, neomycin, sulfadimethoxine, and safe-guard for gut worms, I'd pretty much be fresh out of ideas.

Well, no, I take that back...there's giardiasis and cryptosporidiosis. Treatment for giardiasis is metronidazole, which I've never ever heard of giving a goat, and there is no known treatment for crypto; just supportive therapy.. But I'd say those are both longshots.. But beyond that, really, no idea..

Hey, have you given a sample to this new go-getter vet you found? Maybe he'll see some weird oocysts in there or something..

Glad he's fightin with ya, though!