Coffee anyone ?

[fuzzi]

I use a baking soda paste on fire ant stings, as it keeps them from coming to a head, and reduces pain. Ant stings are acid, baking soda is alkaline, so I think it neutralizes the venom. I've not tried it on bee stings.

 

[drstratton]

We have those really aggressive wasps here. I found that Lavender EO fixes it right up, though meat tenderizer works too. I pull the lavender in a little roll on bottle and used to carry it in my pocket

Gizmo and Boone woke me up early this morning so I made my own coffee. (TheMan is sweet and brings it to me because mornings are difficult for me)

Thank you, that would be easy to carry around.

What a good man!

 

[Baymule]

I use a baking soda paste on fire ant stings, as it keeps them from coming to a head, and reduces pain. Ant stings are acid, baking soda is alkaline, so I think it neutralizes the venom. I've not tried it on bee stings.

 

[drstratton]

I use a baking soda paste on fire ant stings, as it keeps them from coming to a head, and reduces pain. Ant stings are acid, baking soda is alkaline, so I think it neutralizes the venom. I've not tried it on bee stings.

I'm so glad we don't have fire ants where we live. I'm not sure if be venom is acid. Off to research. I'll report back.

 

[drstratton]

I like AI as it brings so much information together.
This is what I found.

Yes, honeybee venom is slightly acidic, with a pH between 4.5 and 5.5, making it mildly acidic. While it contains compounds like melittin and enzymes, the acidity contributes to the pain and swelling caused by a sting, although the primary cause of pain is the venom's components that damage cells and neurons. Although it's a common home remedy, applying a baking soda paste to a bee sting is unlikely to be effective because the sting is injected under the skin, not on the surface.

What makes bee venom acidic?

• Slightly acidic pH:
  [The overall mixture of compounds in honeybee venom has a pH that ranges from 4.5 to 5.5, which is acidic, though not highly so.

• Components contributing to acidity:
• While the venom contains many large protein molecules, the slightly acidic environment is due to factors that can cause acidic contents of the host's own cells to be released.

Why the "baking soda treatment" is ineffective

• Injection, not surface application:

• https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=452a92eb2c2ade68&cs=0&sxsrf=AE3TifOp61HUMh5Xyoqzf1I7Ztqsx2Dlkw:1756924352830&q=Injection,+not+surface+application&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi5mJmfnb2PAxWqIzQIHbVcC1UQxccNegQIIBAD&mstk=AUtExfCjxTv8MpB7l4MAKw2athjsjD9QxCdItXa-tdOIEbKhulMTJm05SHbVHQDq5wQTFrMGqmjDiP0xqI7r4myh_53rv3knOnnjTR4PzFf2eWGUFDVLxs2tWFsezxW42R3Qiz1bPyn40hx0_Xgf4hoFFJfTTNrYWpPCJKxLsk8vZ_4oOfvQdo0qmcGoNrEru-SQKC-8ESxkaYvuSgEQWSLM6eSOSvdO7d3am0c_6Iid8-2L6qgUXfPCBU2X2b71EeGJHBfEMpzdVOMcjrHEti_aP-IG&csui=3
• The sting injects the venom directly into the skin, not just onto the surface where a topical paste could fully neutralize it.
• Limited amount of venom:
• Even with topical application of a baking soda paste, the quantity of venom injected is too small and dispersed too deep to be effectively neutralized.

What actually causes the pain

• [Melittin:

• https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=452a92eb2c2ade68&cs=0&sxsrf=AE3TifOp61HUMh5Xyoqzf1I7Ztqsx2Dlkw:1756924352830&q=Melittin&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi5mJmfnb2PAxWqIzQIHbVcC1UQxccNegQIOBAD&mstk=AUtExfCjxTv8MpB7l4MAKw2athjsjD9QxCdItXa-tdOIEbKhulMTJm05SHbVHQDq5wQTFrMGqmjDiP0xqI7r4myh_53rv3knOnnjTR4PzFf2eWGUFDVLxs2tWFsezxW42R3Qiz1bPyn40hx0_Xgf4hoFFJfTTNrYWpPCJKxLsk8vZ_4oOfvQdo0qmcGoNrEru-SQKC-8ESxkaYvuSgEQWSLM6eSOSvdO7d3am0c_6Iid8-2L6qgUXfPCBU2X2b71EeGJHBfEMpzdVOMcjrHEti_aP-IG&csui=3
• This is the major component of bee venom and a primary cause of the pain from a bee sting.

• Cell and nerve damage:
• The venom damages cells and neurons in the skin, triggering pain signals to be sent to the bbrain.
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• A lot of information, to say it's slightly acidic...lol But more to research if you're so inclined.

 

[Mini Horses]

Having a coffee break! Hot tea this morn. Now 6 of 8 crossed off today's list -- I've earned it. A little pick me up. Almost 3...used to be only time I drank coffee when at office work. Been nice going to bed knowing I did not have to go to work at wake up. 5 more days of it. Nice. Almost a "staycay".

 

[Baymule]

Coffee is ready! Got to go get feed this morning. Carson can’t go, granddaughters have to sit in the back seat. Got to leave early, hour drive and hour back. Then scoop it into metal trash cans. Got to take sister in law to doctor this afternoon. Busy day.

 

[Margali]

I hate diabetes! Dominic's DexCom crapped out unexpectedly around midnight. The 1hr without data alarm woke us up. I had to talk Alijah thru what to do regarding Mobi pump. It will continue to give basal without sensor which is okay during daytime. At night his BG tends to drop low right at ... 1AM. Thankfully, his blood sugar didn't drop below 100 before alarm woke us. But we had to wake him up for finger pokes and applying a new sensor. Then waited 30min for it to warm up and finger poking again to see if it's accurate.
Currently sitting in apt waiting for caffeine to kick in enough to drive safely. New boss is awesome. Texted him and he said no problem.

 

[frustratedearthmother]

I hate diabetes!

I feel your pain. The technology is great when it works correctly - but a royal PIA when it doesn't.

 

[Mini Horses]

Having coffee. Enjoying a cool breeze thru windows. BUT -- won't last as they say a hot 85 later. I'll close windows in an hr or so, capturing the cool. Haven't used AC in almost 10 days and I'd love to keep that going.