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Thank you. :hugs :hugs We are actually very relieved. We guess it was meant to be this way. DH and I have no idea why it's all gone how it's gone but we are taking it as this was how it was supposed to be. I'm going to try and breed the girls. I messed up because I'd already started synchronizing the heifers before they shipped. Now their cycles are going to be wonky. They didn't get the full protocol. I'm hoping they will cycle anyways in the next few days. Time will tell. Need to get them bred so they can settle before we haul them. Just going to do what we can on our end and pray on it for the rest.
It's awful that we both truly believe the manager was trying to get our heifers for bottom dollar and was caught. Then to offer top dollar and be so pushy for them when I took them back after saying he was sorry they didn't get through when they should have because it was a busy sale day. Ya right. We really suspect he was trying to make good money off our heifers. He gave me a month to decide on selling them to him. :rant
I would make sure the owner knows exactly what his manager is up to.
 
Thank you. :hugs :hugs We are actually very relieved. We guess it was meant to be this way. DH and I have no idea why it's all gone how it's gone but we are taking it as this was how it was supposed to be. I'm going to try and breed the girls. I messed up because I'd already started synchronizing the heifers before they shipped. Now their cycles are going to be wonky. They didn't get the full protocol. I'm hoping they will cycle anyways in the next few days. Time will tell. Need to get them bred so they can settle before we haul them. Just going to do what we can on our end and pray on it for the rest.
It's awful that we both truly believe the manager was trying to get our heifers for bottom dollar and was caught. Then to offer top dollar and be so pushy for them when I took them back after saying he was sorry they didn't get through when they should have because it was a busy sale day. Ya right. We really suspect he was trying to make good money off our heifers. He gave me a month to decide on selling them to him. :rant
I have one word for that guy. THIEF.
 
Lets see what's on the menu. Cat brought up a bird and ate it, heard some squealing downstairs, ah here we go a dead rabbit is now up here. Yesterday was a chipmunk. I'm hungry and jealous now.
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I would make sure the owner knows exactly what his manager is up to.
I will once I've settled down a little. Right now I'm struggling with nice words.
I have one word for that guy. THIEF.
We agree. It really bothers us that we truly feel that's what he was doing. Being a thief. His behavior was very aggressive I guess is the word in trying to fix what he created. I don't really know how to say it but it was over the top in apology and trying to buy them.
 
After being in San Jose for the last 6 days, I'm driving back to WA. Sis and I got Mother's room in Memory Care set up for her. Alot of the furniture she's had since being an Air Force wife. The number of moving stickers on the back is a slight testament to the number of van lines they have been in.
 
@RR Homestead ... I am sorry for the experiences on your cattle at that sale barn... previously and the current situation with the heifers.
One word of advice... We NEVER EVER sell anything at the stockyards anymore unless we are there... NEVER.... you go and watch and make sure they bring a fair price. Have had a few get "stolen" in the ring in the past.... one sale barn here closest will do that for single's that go through... we do sell some groups there, but hardly ever take any that will get singled out.... unless they are SUPERIOR animals... and we still sit through the sale....

You were right in catching what they were doing and doing a "no sale"...

Can't you just find a bull to lease and get them all bred black to an angus??? Quickly ????
I don't know the market or available farms there that might have some thing black to use....Or buy a young bull, use him and then you could resell him after you are here and they are bred... There is always a market for a good young breeding bull.... OR ELSE... get them moved, breed them to calve in early fall (bull goes in Oct/Nov) ... they will have several months for the calf to get some growth before the winter weather sets in... and you will have good sized feeder calves to sell in early spring.
 
So today ended up interesting. I did not go to the auction which I never do when we sell. I always go and make sure they market them well and my normal buyers know what's ours. I just couldn't do it with all the emotions. I tried unsuccessfully to sleep. When I finally gave up and got up it got the best of me and I turned on the live stream. Watching the prices slowly go down. Finally called when DH woke up and our group of heifers still hadn't sold yet. We did great on the pairs. I'm happy they are gone and we did well on them. The holstein steers hadn't sold yet either. I was getting pretty angry that our heifers/steers were nearly last in the sale AGAIN. Often if I don't go out and pull favors they end up last because we are a littler guy to them vs all the big guys and all the owners friends. I was told long ago my cattle would be placed better in the sale if I took them in a day early so I've been doing that and still they don't go through until prices are getting worse and most buyers have filled their orders. On top of it I'm charged for the extra day they are there. This was the final straw for us today. We even spoke with the owner and explained their reason for being open (due to MO breeding season) and they didn't even put it up on the screen or even say anything. Not to mention being nearly last through the sale. DH had a fit. Prices had gotten so low we were going to get less than we'd paid for a few of them a year ago. We agreed to pass them out and take them to MO and take our chances with them. We literally were loosing enough by them being last that it more than paid the fuel to take them to MO. DH decided we'd just figure it out. It's only one load of beef heifers at this point. So I called and told them to pass them out. A few minutes later we saw our heifers on the live stream being sold. I immediately called back and told them they were currently in the ring and NOT to be sold. Our suspicions were correct. They brought far less than they should have. Auctioneer had some snarky remarks too about them being passed out which I proceeded to make known how much I did not appreciate the inappropriate comments and attitude when I went in to get our check and pick up our heifers. We payed a few fees and picked up our heifers. In the trailer line we were offered OVER market value on the spot for them. DH said no. We're taking them to MO. What I find interesting is the guy who offered over market value for them was the manager (not the owner) who apologized for not putting our cattle in the proper place in the sale. Gave me some excuses and I explained this is a constant thing. We always get pushed to last when I don't intervene. He even admitted he knew who I was and that I'd worked there for years when I was younger.He said he'd seen our heifers yesterday and really liked them. I truly suspect he may have been the one to buy them in the ring and that's why they were nearly last. To get a better deal. He pushed very hard to buy them before we loaded them up. At that point the answer was no all the way around. Our girls were so good in the ring, pens and loading. Made me proud of them. Brought them home and we'll just take them with us. Oh and the 405 pound holstein steers brought more than the 1200 pound beef heifers went for. 🤦‍♀️The couple beef heifers we had bought last year we put nearly 450 pounds on and "sold" today for less than we paid for them a year ago (prices are higher now) with how late in the sale they were. Relieved to have them home. We'll try and get them bred and figure out from there the rest. Now to figure out what to do with the remaining holstein steers we intended to sell before we left. I'm not sending them to that place to go in the singles pen.
WOW. Just WOW. GRRRR on people who do things like that -- rules for thee and not me types. What a jerk.
As I was reading I was thinking it was meant to be that you get them back. And that was before I read about the jerk manager. HAPPY that you were watching and on top of the situation.
 
Mostly relaxing today, doesn't happen very often. Checked the activity around the hives and gave the flock a treat. There are other things I can work on, but I'm not in the mood. We're heading over to the wetside when hubs finishes playing golf. He's playing, so I'm allowed to relax...lol He wants to take me to a pond store to see if we can find some plants for my bee pond. We'll also hit a few nurseries while we're over there. We plan on staying tonight and then come home after we've finished our shopping. Should be fun, except for the traffic and all of the people.
 
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