De-worming A Goat With Chewing Tobacco

[BlackSheepOrganics]

So sorry you got what appear to be some rather snarky replies. Most on here are wonderful and happy to try to help, at least that has been my experience in my short time here.

I don't have a clue on the answer but I too would be curious to know. We don't chew or smoke but just knowing is half the fun of things. You never know when those little tidbits can come in handy!

 

[savingdogs]

I'm sorry if I came off snarky....not my intent.

Perhaps when I said what is the point I should have put it differently, such as, why not use something more effective since the veterinary journal mentioned it could be harmful.

 

[Emmetts Dairy]

I'll with draw the question in this post & go elsewhere where it can actually be answered.

Point is knowledge

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Im sorry you felt you had to withdraw your post. I was curious if anyone used tobacco as a wormer????

I would ignore the snide remarks and continue on. But I hear ya...once they start they seem to grow.

As you know...we are not all here to show judgement on other members. So please dont let a few snide remarks discourage you.

If you do find out...please post. Id be interested in what you find out. Cuz I have heard that people use tobacco leaves as insecticides. My friends Dad would surround his house with tobacco leaves and it would keep the black ants and termites away.

So who knows???

 

[freemotion]

I'd heard about tobacco as a dewormer from old-timers, too.

Tobacco is grown in my area and during harvest, you see leaves on the side of the road and in the road from falling off the wagons. In my quest for herbal dewormers, I picked up some of the fallen leaves one day and dried them. Then I hit the computer really to research it.

I couldn't find any information to support the use of tobacco as a dewormer. Even sites that are herbal-friendly did not support its use. All I could find was that it needed to be used in such large amounts that it would harm the animal before killing the worms.

I still have the jar of dried tobacco leaf. It is also good to use to make a tea to spray for aphids, or so I was told by a landscaper. If some good info shows up, I'd give it a try. But since tobacco is so poisonous, I'd need some really convincing info, that would allow me to use it in small amounts.

 

[cattlecait]

I dated a guy who's dad would worm the horses that way, he kept chew (the leaves in a bag, not the nasty ground up fiberglass yuck in a can) and they didn't like it, but he swore it was more affective than any wormer and more natural.

 

[aggieterpkatie]

Tobacco has historically been used as an anthelmintic for livestock. While nicotine does have some anthelmintic properties, it is extremely toxic in the doses needed to kill worms.

Link

 

[Emmetts Dairy]

Thanks for the link...interesting read!

 

[cmjust0]

I've never seen a goat wouldn't knock you down to eat a cigarette once they knew what it was, and they're generally enchanted by cigarette smoke. You can blow it right in there faces and they'll get as close to your face as possible and breeeeeathe it in, then they'll put their nose in the air and curl their upper lip like "Aahhhhh, that's nice." Weird, I know..



As far as using it to deworm, that's horse hockey. You could almost certainly kill worms with it, but only because worms won't live long in a dead goat. :/

Having said all that, it's probably worth pointing out that the dewormer Levasole works by binding to nicotinic acetylcholine receptors which causes the worms to spaz to a halt and die..

 

[aggieterpkatie]

Having said all that, it's probably worth pointing out that the dewormer Levasole works by binding to nicotinic acetylcholine receptors which causes the worms to spaz to a halt and die..

And is it a coincidence that when deworming with Levasole dewormers one should be careful not to overdose as it's pretty toxic when overdosed?

I don't know really if it is or not. Honestly it's been too long since I took physiology.

 

[Lisakze]

This thread has been very helpful in finding out what does or does not work, sometimes you hear stuff from people and just cannot decide it to be true. I find that it helps to listen to other peoples questions and see what answers they get in order to learn for myself. Thank you fro posting the original question.