Goat with cold symptoms???

[ThornyRidge]

gave him the shot of banamine and also a drenching of the benadryl. also sqirted a bit of the vetrx for goats in each of his nostrils tonight.. left him separate and when I was leaving he was nibbling his hay and had nibbled some grain. he is not happy with me because the fleece coat is freakin him out... and now he thinks I am gonna stick him with a needle every time I come near him.. poor guy.. anyway vet never called back so I will keep up in the morning with the pen, maybe some more benadryl and the vetrx stuff.. another shot of banamine later tomorrow then too if still has fever.. I also picked up some baby aspirin..hope fever breaks and I don't have to worry much about getting him to take them. I did get the orange flavor so maybe

 

[cmjust0]

Fever = infection, so this isn't just a cold...clinically speaking, he *has* pneumonia. Almost any vet would come to that conclusion and treat accordingly based on congested breathing and fever alone.

I dunno what dosage you're using for PenG, but if he's in the 90lb range, you should be giving 6ml of PenG *TWICE* a day through an 18ga needle.. A 20ga will work if you can't stomach an 18ga -- but no smaller than that.

Do try to get some better meds than PenG, though. Naxcel or Excenel would be good, and any vet should have that. It's not cheap, but it's good stuff.

 

[SDGsoap&dairy]

I'm with CM about the 18 gauge, but I wouldn't compromise and use a 20 gauge. I've had the needle fly off a luer lock using a 20 with pen G and they tend to squirm even worse because it takes forever.

 

[cmjust0]

I'm with CM about the 18 gauge, but I wouldn't compromise and use a 20 gauge. I've had the needle fly off a luer lock using a 20 with pen G and they tend to squirm even worse because it takes forever.

Yikes! Did the needle pop out of the hub, or did the whole hub fly off the syringe?!?

For me, it's not about squirming or needles popping off anyway...I have no sympathy for squirmers and I use luer locks for a reason: If they want to squirm, I just promise that a bent needle's gonna hurt more and leave it up to them to decide!

The real issue is that the particles of PenG medication are suspended in liquid carrier, and some -- many, in my experience -- are just too big to fit through anything smaller than a 20ga needle.. Some won't even pass through a 20ga, but it's *usually* OK.. Either way, using smaller needles with PenG leads to clogs when drawing up the medication, which leads ot puffing med back into the bottle and drawing again...and puffing, and drawing...puff, draw...puff, draw...until you get a syringe full of something white that looks like PenG. Unfortunately, what you really have is a syringe full of too much liquid carrier and not enough actual medication, along with a bottle full of too much med and not enough carrier.. Weakly-dosed syringes; over-dosed bottle.. Do it enough times out of the same bottle and real-world dosages can get *really* wacky.

If you read the back of a PenG bottle, I think most actually call for *16* gauge needles -- but even I'm not that much of a b@stard.

Not at this point, anyway.