We had 2 sets of twins from first time moms on Saturday....two bucks from one, and two does from the other. In 7 years of raising Kiko's, the second first timer on Saturday gave us a little scare. Both kids were coming with head and only one hoof. We thought we were going to have to help her, and I was getting nervous, but about the time I was ready to assist, she gave a big push, and that was it. The second one was a tad smaller and she didn't have any problem with him. We usually aren't even out there watching. I'll try to get some pics up of them soon. It's a snowy, muddy mess where we are right now, and we have several more pregnant does due any time. Then three more in a few weeks. I LOVE this time of year!!