mites!.. nope, LICE! ew

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omgosh, yall must think i have some sickly animals and a dirty place cause suddenly i am posting all over about issues with all my animals! i have had such good luck with all my animals for years and all of a sudden i am having issue after issue. :( i try my best to learn as much as possible and i take good care of them all and im just having a real wave of bad luck around here i guess.

i was taking pics of my doe because i wanted to post them and ask about her itchiness and her hair shedding out. i was seperating her hair to take pics and thats when i saw the creepy crawlies :sick im horrified!! how did she get mites?! she goes out in the yard with my calf and my ewe, but shes not friendly with them and they dont have real close contact. also she has her own stall cause she likes her space. so how do i treat mites on a pygmyX doe? and should i treat my calf and ewe (who dont show any symptoms so far)

i have recently been treating two dogs for mange, and i was affraid it was going to spread like wildfire thru all my animals because they all have some contact with eachother. as far as i know you cant see mange, so this must just be a seperate issue. i dont have a clue where she got mites, and is this also going to spread to the other animals?

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If they're creepy crawly and you can *see* them, it's almost certainly lice and not mites. Mites burrow into the skin...all you ever really see of mites are the crusty, scaley, oozy damage they cause to the skin. She may have that too, in which case she's got both mites and lice.

Meh. :)

What I do for external creepy crawlies is inject Ivomec (or, preferably, some cheaper generic equivalent) at the label dose of 1ml/110lbs of body weight. SubQ is fine. If you're worried on account of everyone going GHA! NEVER INJECT IVOMEC OR YOU'LL CREATE RESISTANCE! then I'd go ahead and dose her orally as well, as you normally would.

Injected ivermectin should take care of pretty much any creepy crawly she'll get. Lice, mites, even ticks in the summer.
 

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We inject ivomec. 2 cc per 100lbs is the dosage we are using for external parasites, but I don't use ivomec as a wormer.
 

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ok thanks.. i did some reading and saw that dusting them with DE will work also? i know everyone has thier ways of doing things and ill always get different opinions, but im just wondering if that would actually be effective enough? ill strip out her stall and add new bedding and dust the stall with DE, so i figure if im going to buy it i might use it on her as well.. but if iver. is the best most effective thing to use ill go ahead with that too.
 

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dwbonfire said:
ok thanks.. i did some reading and saw that dusting them with DE will work also? i know everyone has thier ways of doing things and ill always get different opinions, but im just wondering if that would actually be effective enough? ill strip out her stall and add new bedding and dust the stall with DE, so i figure if im going to buy it i might use it on her as well.. but if iver. is the best most effective thing to use ill go ahead with that too.
I use the food grade not pool graden DE in my animals bedding it works you can also douse your house too, ants, fleas any hard shell ecto-skeleton bug
 

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There are lots of choices for lice, powders such as the DE and Co-Ral, sprays sold at your feed store and pour-ons such as ivermectin and cyclence. You have lots of options. Lice are easier to get rid of than mites and more common problem than mites.
 

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The DE is going to take a lot longer to get rid of the lice. If you have bad cases, then it really is better to go with something else. Use the DE after you get rid of them to try and keep them away. 2011 was a bad year for a lot of things and it seems to be continuing.
 

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hmm ok, well i got some DE and dusted the heck out of her, she looked like an antique goat afterwards :lol: i dusted her stall too, i figured i would strip it out tomorrow and dust the new shavings as well. how long until i dust her again? and can you use too much on them? i hope not...

i looked at TSC at the ivermectin cattle pour-on. is that what i'd use? how do i use it? its cheaper than ivermectin injectable and i dont have any trouble giving shots, but i've been told ivermectin stings pretty bad when injected so i feel like if i can go the cheaper pour-on route i'd rather. just need to know where to pour it on and how much how often.
 

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Tea Tree oil also works if you're looking for natural. Cleared up my son's in a heartbeat when he brought the creepies home from school. Of course that is a larger area to cover & it could get expensive going that route... You could mix some with water in a sprayer & spray the rest of the herd that's near her down well & it will repel them so they don't jump off her onto the others when you treat her.
 

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dwbonfire said:
hmm ok, well i got some DE and dusted the heck out of her, she looked like an antique goat afterwards :lol: i dusted her stall too, i figured i would strip it out tomorrow and dust the new shavings as well. how long until i dust her again? and can you use too much on them? i hope not...

i looked at TSC at the ivermectin cattle pour-on. is that what i'd use? how do i use it? its cheaper than ivermectin injectable and i dont have any trouble giving shots, but i've been told ivermectin stings pretty bad when injected so i feel like if i can go the cheaper pour-on route i'd rather. just need to know where to pour it on and how much how often.
You don't want to use a pour on as a pour on for goats as they're more sensitive. But you can use it orally.

I don't have much faith in DE for parasites (yes, I've tried it).

I like Python dust and ivermectin (and I too inject for external creepy crawlies). Injecting ivermectin does cause a "reaction" but I've never lost a goat due to an Ivomec injection.
 
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