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HI EVERYONE, SO SORRY FOR THE DELAY...

Daisy May has a punture through her ear and a couple of holes in her neck, but not deep, thank goodness. Well, we called the Police who then contacted AC. A state trooper came out and took some info, and as she was doing that, the neighbor showed up.He saw the cruiser go by and came over to see how Daisy was doing.....he claimed he was so shook up he couldn't say anything at the time, and was just trying to get the dog back in the house. What had actually happened was he had his landlord knocking on the door as we were going by...when he opened it up...the dog flew past him and bee-lined for Daisy...this is what he told me...

He HAD an adorable little Pekingese but it had apparently jumped out of his truck and gotten a spinal injury that he could not afford...so the vet saved the dog, made it a set of wheels and he is up for adoption.Well, the vet realized save this incident, this guy is a dog lover and asked him to take this "rescue pitbull".He agreed but on the condition to return it if any problems occurred....he had been only taking it out on a leash for the last month, which is why I had never seen it...he agreed readily (in front of the trooper) that it was not a good idea to keep it and said he would take it back the next day.

AC tested the dog for rabies, and it came back negative...so that's good..they'll keep it for ten days to see if it becomes sick.I'm not sure where the dog will go after that...I had told him I didn't want to see him get rid of the dog if he didn't want to but that it had to be contained...he stated he was leary to begin with because of the breed and how old it already was when he adopted it. (the dog is 3 years old)He also said not to worry about walking my goats anymore past his house....
Anyway, I ended up feeling bad for him....and as usual my emotions take off first!I am really glad the dog is gone but I still feel for him having to lose another dog....so to speak...I hope he finds a nice one, and it is friendly to livestock....
 

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Roll farms said:
Keep up the pen G, 2x a day for 7 days at least (I'd go 10). Dog bites can be nasty wounds, and any time there's a deep wound you want to use Pen G. Is she UTD on her CD/T?

She will probably be sore tonight / tomorrow and may act pretty droopy. Keep her quiet (not alone unless she wants to be), give her lots of love and comfort, and you might consider giving her banamine or children's liquid ibuprofen for pain / swelling late tonight and tomorrow morning....I wouldn't go more than 3 doses of either, 12 hrs apart.

A B shot won't hurt and probiotics any time they're on antibiotics.
Thanks for the advice, she was really shook up...I don't think she will ever like dogs. She trembled all night after that! Not to mention keeping her head between my legs and "hiding"....poor baby!
 

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elevan said:
I second everything that has already been said. Here in Ohio we can demand that the dog be turned over to animal control for either euth or rehoming depending on the circumstances. I did just that recently when a neighbors dog killed my cats.

You had every right to walk your animals. They were restrained. The neighbor failed in this case. And Jodie is absolutely right...next time it could be someone's toddler. A dog that will attack in that fashion is dangerous - period. Regardless of breed.

I wish you and your doeling the best. I know it's hard. :hugs
Thank you....and yes, I would worry about any dog with that type of mindset around any small kids!
 

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jessica_1285 said:
Omg I'm so sorry this happened to you! I really hope she is doing OK! This is a case of really bad dog ownership and I hope that guy is held responsible in a serious way.
Btw... as a pitbull owner and activist I try to suggest that people please not assume that any attacking dog must be a pitbull because most aren't and this is why pitbulls have such a bad rap. Many breeds look similar to pits and if this was a Huge dog then it most definately was not a pitbull :( ... but regardless you should never have to worry about your safety because of an irresponsible pet owner.
You're right...he is a pit mix....mot sure what else....
 

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suzeqf said:
I've been lurking for a while but had to comment, I've been on the receiving end of a fighting pit bull attack, i was walking my cocker and dog was in an abandoned house with a chain link fence and busted out of the fence and my dog hadn't been wearing her fence collar he would have killed her. It took the dogs owner tackling the dog to get him off of her and he got loose and he had to tackle him again because he was so wound up. This happened a block from a preschool and nursing home. I called the cops and the county took the owners to court and forced them to keep their dogs in a fence and chained. Now I live in the country and have 60 chickens and I'm getting to be getting 2 little does this spring and I always keep a stick or bb gun handy by the back door just in case of strays. I ended up having to re-home my cocker after the attack because she had the canine version of PTSD and became very protectice of me

Give Daisy a big hug and lots of love and I hope she gets better
:welcome
and thank you so much! I think I'll try the pepper spray thing first..and maybe a pocket knife....so sorry about your dog!
 

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Karma said:
So I don't know where you are in NY but here (cortland county) we call the county animal control and local "dog wardens", however they usually are slow to respond if they even do we also call directly to the county sherrifs office - especially when an animal is attacked to the point of requiring medical assistance or possibly not making it-because we know it is taken more seriously and documented much better with them so if we go after the owner for medical/replacement costs, we have all the proper documentation and an extra witness to attest to the condition of the attacked animal. So I'm glad to hear you involved them because they usually take it alot more seriously than the AC people.

Also I wanted to point out your reactions, especially the screaming could have made the situation worse - I know it is easier said than done to stay calm when you think your animal is going to be killed however, when dogs attack things like getting hit, kicked, or people screaming can actually encourage redirected aggression (ie, the dog turning to bite you) or encourage the dog to become even more frenzied in their attack.

As far as what to do to protect your animals at home, I would not rely on electric to stop a dog - especially a pitbull which are notorious for having a massive prey drive and high pain tolerance. I know my siberian husky has run straight through hot electric strong enough to keep an ornery escape artist angus bull contained. If the dog decides the reward is bigger than the risk of the pain from the charge, the fence will not stop them to matter how powerful it is.
I am in Renn county...makes sense about the staying calm....hadn't thought of that but also never had a dog attack a goat before....or anything else for that matter. Yes, it would have been near impossible since 2 days before that we had just watched our beloved kitten die from being accidentally stepped on...so emotions were high instantly.
As for the fencing...it's all I will have really.... I don't know what else you could do....
 

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AdoptAPitBull said:
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The bite pressure thing is grossly inaccurate, but I digress.

NO peroxide. Peroxide kills healthy tissue and good bacteria. Water only is best.

Dogs of ALL breeds can be very prey driven. It is absolutely the owner's fault for not having it contained. With that said, it doesn't seem like the guy really gives a crap about his dog. You now have to be proactive and bring pepper spray, an airhorn (good distraction), a BB gun...something to divert the attention away from the goats. I won't walk my dogs if I know the neighbor's intact GSD is out. I have never trusted that dog. Maybe try walking around a bit and if you see the dog, don't take the goats out till he's inside.
Actually it's not grossly inaccurate. Dog bites (not just pit bull bites) are in the range of 200 to 400 PSI. Wolves can bite with about 500 PSI. As a person who has suffered enough dog bites, and who has researched this pretty well (professional dog writer), the upper end depends a lot on the dog, but it wouldn't surprise me. A medium to big dog like a pit bull could have a strong bite.
Dr. Barr at NatGeo conducted a study in which Pit Bulls had the least bite pressure in a test of GSDs, Rottweilers, and Pit Bulls. The Pit came in third, at 235lbs. No reliable studies since then have ever measured a Pit Bull's higher than that.

As a Pit advocate myself, I can't stand the mis-information about one of America's oldest breeds.

I'm sorry to hijack, as the poor goat is the main concern here. I hope she is doing OK and that the owner is punished for letting his dog run loose.
Thank you, she seems ok.
As for the Pibull thing, I believe it is a cross, and I also do not belive any one breed to be viscious, I think people make them that way.I have nothing against Pit bulls myself...it just happened to be the type(cross of pit)that did it.
 

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:hugs I am so glad she is getting better and your neighbor is taking responsibility.

It is unfortunate that the dog has to suffer from some person's inability to properly train and control it. Big and agressive dogs need a firm hand from day 1.
 

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It sounds like your neighbor is an alright guy. I am really glad he came through.
It also goes to show that first impressions (of your neighbor) aren't always what they seem.

I am sorry to hear that your goat had to be the victim of someone else's negligent care of a potentially wonderful animal. Pitbulls get a bum rap when they are badly raised.

I hope your little goat gets over her trauma with the dog. Goats are pretty good about unlearning things if you work with them diligently. You can help her get used to dogs by introducing her to a pup, and letting the pup grow up with her, if you have that opportunity. I did that with one of mine and it worked pretty well. It doesn;t always work, but sometimes it does.

Good luck.
 

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