Omg! I am shaking and need advice!

[jessica_1285]

Omg I'm so sorry this happened to you! I really hope she is doing OK! This is a case of really bad dog ownership and I hope that guy is held responsible in a serious way.
Btw... as a pitbull owner and activist I try to suggest that people please not assume that any attacking dog must be a pitbull because most aren't and this is why pitbulls have such a bad rap. Many breeds look similar to pits and if this was a Huge dog then it most definately was not a pitbull ... but regardless you should never have to worry about your safety because of an irresponsible pet owner.

 

[Shayanna]

I really don't understand why everyone beats an attacking dog!
You need to grab the dog's back legs straight up and turn away with the dog to get it off. If the dog is still going nuts or cannot be held by his collar, you just hold onto a leg in the air and drag it away to be locked up.

Until you do this and the dog doesn't let go, but ends up pulling a huge chunk of flesh out of the other animal. If that dog doesn't want to let go, its not going to. Doing this method is how our old husky girl lost an ear to our beagle/lab mix.

 

[AdoptAPitBull]

I am so sorry to hear this happened.

As a large dog owner and semi-retired sled dog racer, I would say the pit bull's owner is at fault. The pit bull isn't necessarily people aggressive, but could be. Dogs have a natural instinct to go after prey--and sorry to say, but your goats are on the menu. That doesn't preclude the owner from keeping his dog under control at all times.

I too second that you were perfectly within your right to walk your goats on leash on the road. Now that you had that experience, I would keep a nice bottle of bear pepper spay with you for the purpose of keeping possible dogs from getting at your goats while walking. Yes, I don't think you should have to carry one in a perfect world, but our world is seldom perfect.

As for dog bites -- you did good to give your goat a shot of Pen G. Keep that up. Dog bites are notoriously bad for infection because dogs have enzymes in their mouths that break down tissue. Also, flush the wound out with a syringe filled with a mix of hydrogen peroxide and water. You want the wounds to heal from the inside out. Dog bites, especially big ones, do a lot of damage by trauma (trust me -- first hand experience here!) Your goat is in a lot of pain, so if you can give her bantamine or some other pain meds that are safe for goats, do it. Use ice packs wrapped in a towel on that neck to reduce swelling. I would also talk with your veterinarian about looking at her neck, if you can.

The shaking is due to pain and being shaken up. Pit bulls bite with something like 400 lbs per square inch, which is pretty gnarly. Keep an eye on that doeling. Shock is characterized by a drop in temperature, pale gums/low capillary refill rate, and a fast, thready pulse. If she's showing symptoms, maintain a consistent body core temperature and get her to the veterinarian ASAP. With pit bull bites, there can be internal bleeding.

Good luck! Let me know how it goes.

The bite pressure thing is grossly inaccurate, but I digress.

NO peroxide. Peroxide kills healthy tissue and good bacteria. Water only is best.

Dogs of ALL breeds can be very prey driven. It is absolutely the owner's fault for not having it contained. With that said, it doesn't seem like the guy really gives a crap about his dog. You now have to be proactive and bring pepper spray, an airhorn (good distraction), a BB gun...something to divert the attention away from the goats. I won't walk my dogs if I know the neighbor's intact GSD is out. I have never trusted that dog. Maybe try walking around a bit and if you see the dog, don't take the goats out till he's inside.

Actually it's not grossly inaccurate. Dog bites (not just pit bull bites) are in the range of 200 to 400 PSI. Wolves can bite with about 500 PSI. As a person who has suffered enough dog bites, and who has researched this pretty well (professional dog writer), the upper end depends a lot on the dog, but it wouldn't surprise me. A medium to big dog like a pit bull could have a strong bite.

Dr. Barr at NatGeo conducted a study in which Pit Bulls had the least bite pressure in a test of GSDs, Rottweilers, and Pit Bulls. The Pit came in third, at 235lbs. No reliable studies since then have ever measured a Pit Bull's higher than that.

As a Pit advocate myself, I can't stand the mis-information about one of America's oldest breeds.

I'm sorry to hijack, as the poor goat is the main concern here. I hope she is doing OK and that the owner is punished for letting his dog run loose.

 

[terrilhb]

The bite pressure thing is grossly inaccurate, but I digress.


NO peroxide. Peroxide kills healthy tissue and good bacteria. Water only is best.

Dogs of ALL breeds can be very prey driven. It is absolutely the owner's fault for not having it contained. With that said, it doesn't seem like the guy really gives a crap about his dog. You now have to be proactive and bring pepper spray, an airhorn (good distraction), a BB gun...something to divert the attention away from the goats. I won't walk my dogs if I know the neighbor's intact GSD is out. I have never trusted that dog. Maybe try walking around a bit and if you see the dog, don't take the goats out till he's inside.

Actually it's not grossly inaccurate. Dog bites (not just pit bull bites) are in the range of 200 to 400 PSI. Wolves can bite with about 500 PSI. As a person who has suffered enough dog bites, and who has researched this pretty well (professional dog writer), the upper end depends a lot on the dog, but it wouldn't surprise me. A medium to big dog like a pit bull could have a strong bite.

Dr. Barr at NatGeo conducted a study in which Pit Bulls had the least bite pressure in a test of GSDs, Rottweilers, and Pit Bulls. The Pit came in third, at 235lbs. No reliable studies since then have ever measured a Pit Bull's higher than that.

As a Pit advocate myself, I can't stand the mis-information about one of America's oldest breeds.

I'm sorry to hijack, as the poor goat is the main concern here. I hope she is doing OK and that the owner is punished for letting his dog run loose.

I agree. I saw a show where they said the Rott has the strongest bite out of all dogs. The only reason a pitt is considered so bad is because their jaws lock.

 

[Stacykins]

I agree. I saw a show where they said the Rott has the strongest bite out of all dogs. The only reason a pitt is considered so bad is because their jaws lock.

Actually no breed of dog have jaws with a locking mechanism. That is just a myth.

 

[elevan]

Let's not derail this thread into a debate about bite force and dog breeds. Neither of those is the point of the thread.

NYRIR - Can you give us an update on your goats? I hope that all is well and the animal control has contacted the owner of the dog.

 

[SkyWarrior]

Actually it's not grossly inaccurate. Dog bites (not just pit bull bites) are in the range of 200 to 400 PSI. Wolves can bite with about 500 PSI. As a person who has suffered enough dog bites, and who has researched this pretty well (professional dog writer), the upper end depends a lot on the dog, but it wouldn't surprise me. A medium to big dog like a pit bull could have a strong bite.

Dr. Barr at NatGeo conducted a study in which Pit Bulls had the least bite pressure in a test of GSDs, Rottweilers, and Pit Bulls. The Pit came in third, at 235lbs. No reliable studies since then have ever measured a Pit Bull's higher than that.

As a Pit advocate myself, I can't stand the mis-information about one of America's oldest breeds.

I'm sorry to hijack, as the poor goat is the main concern here. I hope she is doing OK and that the owner is punished for letting his dog run loose.

I agree. I saw a show where they said the Rott has the strongest bite out of all dogs. The only reason a pitt is considered so bad is because their jaws lock.

No, their jaws do not lock. That IS a myth.

 

[SkyWarrior]

Let's not derail this thread into a debate about bite force and dog breeds. Neither of those is the point of the thread.

NYRIR - Can you give us an update on your goats? I hope that all is well and the animal control has contacted the owner of the dog.

Oops, my bad. How are the goats doing?

 

[Shayanna]

How are the goats doing?

 

[ragdollcatlady]

I hope justice is being served and your little one is OK......Waiting patiently for news.