Roundworms

[lupinfarm]

One of my dogs has been given a diagnosis of a heavy load of roundworms. All the dogs and the cat have all been wormed now. Since my dogs live on the same property as the other animals, would Ivermec be sufficient to worm the horses, goats, and chickens?

Anyone know anything about roundworms being passed to humans?

 

[mavrick]

it would

 

[lupinfarm]

Sigh, now I have to worm everybody LOL. This could be interesting. The goats are not going to be too happy to be stuck with a needle. Quesa (the dog) has been hacking for ever, and it was always during running so we just figured she was not that fit, and got winded easily but this morning she puked up what looked like a ball of angel hair spaghetti! Took it to the vet to get a definitive answer and there it was, a heavy load of roundworm. Not fun.

 

[jhm47]

Ivomec comes in many forms. There is a pour-on, an injectible, and a drench (oral) form. Ivomec is used in humans in third-world countries. It is considered a wonder drug in those countries that have endemic infestations of river blindness, elephantiasis, and many other parasites. My cousin did some of his medical residency in Sierra Leone, and he routinely used it on many of his patients. The manufacturer donated many millions of $ worth to help prevent these heartbreaking infestations.

I'm not recommending that you use it on your family though, just thought it was interesting that you felt it might be necessary to treat your family.

Keep in mind that the injectible form of ivomec is a subcutaneous injection, not intramuscular. It also controls many external parasites.

 

[ohiofarmgirl]

what did they give you to worm the dog???

we've used safeuard (fenbendazole 10% suspension 100mg) for goats on our wormy dog. its an oral solution.

but i am interested in knowing if anybody uses DE (food grade) for worming their barnyard/dogs??? i know DE is a touchy subject but i've been reading that it works. i'd love to have a natural solution for our wormy dog.



ps ah yes the puked up 'spaghetti' and the horrible realization thats not what it was !!!! eeeeeek!
pss have you spotted him for fleas?? maybe thats where he was getting the worms?? we are using borax in our house to kill them off in here and mercifully we have had freezing temps to get rid of them outside.

 

[lupinfarm]

We have SIX dogs The one infected is Quesa a Mini Poodle, obviously the rest are likely infected but the good thign was that the lovely spaghetti that came up was actually dead on arrival. We wormed them twice in the last 2 weeks with Strongid T and one was a double dose of it so we likely at least damaged the population. Unfortunately Strongid is not effective against Roundworm because its meant for Small Strongyles.

ANYWAY, They gave the dogs Drontal pills. We actually have to go back today and pick up an extra because they left out our Shih Tzu X. All the meds for the 6 dogs and 1 cat cost about $69 and we are lucky enough to have a vet that doesn't require all the animals to be seen, it's good enough that my cat and our horse are seen by him. We bought pill pockets by Greenies for the dogs/cat and it was like a treat to them.

Our dogs aren't really FARM dogs or LGD's LOL they're pets/breeding dogs. 4 Mini Poodles, 1 Shih Tzu/Bichon (we don't breed her, in fact she's going in soon to be fixed and rehomed, we took her as a rescue a couple years ago thin with a litter of 6 puppies nursing), and 1 Mini Labradoodle.

I don't think that DE would work against Roundworm AT ALL. It's preventative measures with DE and even then it's not that effective. IMO it's more effective against on-skin parasites like Mites and things like Fly larvae as it dries out their bodies (have you ever dumped Ajax powder or DE on larvae before? Pretty nasty.)

The dogs haven't had specialized flea treatment in a while but we've been preventing fleas with DE in their beds/crates and they get regular bathes. The closest they get to the livestock is Nacho the Mini Labradoodle who guards the Ducks/Chickens during the day.

We believe that the roundworms came from Ginny, the Shih Tzu as she came from a neglectful breeder from Western Canada and was riddled with worms when we got her. That or a Newf we had for a few days who was so infested with Tapeworm he almost died. Also from a neglectful breeder.

 

[mavrick]

WE use the Ivomec pour on for every thing give it orally to dogs, put in water for chickens, pour on goats,cows ,horses

 

[jhm47]

Ivomec has gotten quite cheap since the patent came off. At least the generic brands are much cheaper. You should be able to treat a medium sized dog for around 10 - 15 cents if you buy a small bottle of injectible. You can use the injectible orally if you prefer. Do not use it on Collie or Collie crossed dogs though. For some reason, they are not able to tolerate Ivomec. One of the advantages of it is that it's effective against many external parasites, as well as most internal ones. Won't work on tapeworms or liver flukes though.

 

[ksalvagno]

The problem that I see with DE is that you have ingest one heck of a lot on a daily basis for it to work. I looked into it for my alpacas and I have to give them about 6 tablespoons a day. There is no way I will get that much down them. Especially on a daily basis.

You might be better off trying some of the other herbs that are used for dewormers if you want to go that route.

 

[helmstead]

You guys shouldn't be advocating Ivermec for dogs unless a VET has seen the dog and prescribed it! It can be DEADLY in small doses to MANY types of dog!

There are plenty of effective treatments available for all species to treat roundworm - and it is one of those that affects all species. Luckily it's also one of the easiest to treat for.

DE should not be used as a TREATMENT for worms...perhaps it has benefits as a preventative (as do many other naturally occuring substances), but once you KNOW you have worms, the best course is to use chemical treatment.