SageHill Ranch Journal

[fuzzi]

If loose dogs jumped over my 4' fence and were going after my chickens I would probably shoot them. Before I had the fence repaired a neighbors dogs got loose and came in my backyard. I shoo'd them home. They were Danes/Dane mixes.

 

[SageHill]

Got the sheep all weighed <yay> and stuff put away before the rain started. All recorded in my records now and have figured out who will be loading up on the 12th for the auction. At the moment keeping 5 of the lambs for the flock, 3 for private freezer sales. Rest of the lambs and Silver (the I don't wanna be a mama ewe) will be making the trip.
The keeper rams are 108# dob 7/19 and 88# dob 8/30 -- both nice big boys.

 

[drstratton]

Got the sheep all weighed <yay> and stuff put away before the rain started. All recorded in my records now and have figured out who will be loading up on the 12th for the auction. At the moment keeping 5 of the lambs for the flock, 3 for private freezer sales. Rest of the lambs and Silver (the I don't wanna be a mama ewe) will be making the trip.
The keeper rams are 108# dob 7/19 and 88# dob 8/30 -- both nice big boys.

I hope they do well at auction.

I also hope you get some good rain. I was talking to my sister in law, they live on the coast. The rain has been so heavy they're measuring it by 5gal buckets. They've been filled 3 times since the crazy rains started. Thankfully their house is high enough that it hasn't flooded. They have a pump underneath the house to keep it dry from run off.

 

[RR Homestead]

We call it SSS. Shoot shovel shut up.

Fortunately our sheriff is sensitive to dog attacks. He has a few sheep and dogs killed some. So he is on the side of shoot the attacking dogs. There is a leash law, county wide, but few out in the country pay attention to it.

Our law enforcement does not enforce the law. Something I'm looking forward to at our new place. Sure sounds like laws are enforced there.

 

[fuzzi]

Our law enforcement does not enforce the law. Something I'm looking forward to at our new place. Sure sounds like laws are enforced there.

Gun Laws in Missouri:

Missouri allows permitless carry of firearms, meaning individuals who are 19 years or older and legally eligible to possess a firearm may carry concealed handguns without a permit, a policy that took effect on January 1, 2017.
Open carry is also permitted without a permit for individuals who meet the same age and legal possession requirements, although local governments may pass ordinances restricting open carry for those without a concealed carry permit.
Missouri is a "shall issue" state for concealed carry permits, which are issued to citizens and lawful permanent residents who are at least 19 years old (18 for members of the U.S. Armed Forces or honorably discharged veterans).

No state permit is required to purchase long guns or handguns, and there is no firearm registration requirement in Missouri.
The state does not regulate assault weapons, impose magazine capacity restrictions, or require background checks for private sales of firearms.
Missouri law prohibits certain individuals from possessing firearms, including convicted felons, fugitives from justice, persons adjudged mentally incompetent, and those who are habitually intoxicated or currently under the influence of controlled substances.
Possession of a firearm while intoxicated is an offense, and it is illegal to possess a firearm while knowingly in possession of a controlled substance that would constitute a felony under Missouri law.

Missouri has a "Castle Doctrine" and "Stand Your Ground" law, allowing individuals to use force, including deadly force, in self-defense without a duty to retreat when they are in a place where they have a legal right to be.

The state also has peaceable journey laws, permitting individuals to transport firearms through the state without a permit.

Missouri preempts local laws regarding the possession and carry of firearms, meaning state law supersedes local ordinances on concealed carry, open carry, and discharge of firearms, although local governments may regulate open carry and discharge in certain circumstances.

Certain locations are off-limits for carrying concealed firearms even with a permit, including schools, courthouses, polling places on election day, correctional facilities, airports, hospitals, sports arenas with a seating capacity of 5,000 or more, and establishments that serve alcohol if the area is primarily devoted to alcohol consumption and the owner or manager has posted a sign prohibiting firearms.
Private property owners may post "No Weapons Allowed" signs, and while such signs are not enforced unless a person refuses to leave or repeatedly enters while carrying a firearm, they may prohibit concealed carry on their premises.

Missouri does not have a red flag law, and the concealed carry registry is not accessible to the public under public records law.
There is no duty to inform a law enforcement officer that one is carrying a concealed firearm unless asked.
Missouri does not require a driver’s license to be linked to a concealed carry permit, but the state maintains a database that displays concealed carry permit information on both driver’s licenses and non-driver ID cards.

 

[RR Homestead]

Gun Laws in Missouri:

This is something I still have to wrap my head around. All I've known is CA laws. The only ones that seem to be enforced are those against us not criminals. Now do they actually enforce laws in general in MO? That's the true question. I am told do not speed or you'll get a ticket so that's a good start on saying they may actually enforce laws. I still can't wrap my head around actual freedom and rights to defend myself.

 

[fuzzi]

This is something I still have to wrap my head around. All I've known is CA laws. The only ones that seem to be enforced are those against us not criminals. Now do they actually enforce laws in general in MO? That's the true question. I am told do not speed or you'll get a ticket so that's a good start on saying they may actually enforce laws. I still can't wrap my head around actual freedom and rights to defend myself.

Welcome to the South.

 

[RR Homestead]

Welcome to the South.

I hope this isn't streaking!

 

[Ridgetop]

Dog attacks are usually worse than wld predator attacks in that the wild predator kills to eat where the dog packs are just having fun.
Murphy in "stealth mode" along the fence next to the second German Shepherd meant business. As in terminal business if the dog came over his fence. Barking is a warning, but when an Anatolian is in kill mode to a predator who didn't listen to the warning barks, they don't waste effort barking.
Sounds like between Murphy and your dogs you have a good protection system.

 

[SageHill]

Dog attacks are usually worse than wld predator attacks in that the wild predator kills to eat where the dog packs are just having fun.
Murphy in "stealth mode" along the fence next to the second German Shepherd meant business. As in terminal business if the dog came over his fence. Barking is a warning, but when an Anatolian is in kill mode to a predator who didn't listen to the warning barks, they don't waste effort barking.
Sounds like between Murphy and your dogs you have a good protection system.

I have learned so much from your posts about your dogs and how they work. To see it in action is breath taking (in a good way). I truly believe that when Murphy barks when we move into the pasture it's a "Good morning" hello. A few barks, I say "Good Morning Murph" - he watches for awhile and moves along. I'm certainly not going to go to that fence and stick my arm through - (that would be stupid), but my dogs can be ~5 ft off the fence with the sheep and Murph just stands and watches. Yup - I think that is all of them respecting each other and knowing what their jobs are.
My mind is still replaying the German Shepherds and Murphy - I'm blest to have a great neighbor dog.