Something I feel needs saying....

[ksalvagno]

There can never be a substitute for experience. Sometimes you also just have to get the right medicine. The knowledge on here has been invaluable to me and I thank everyone who has been willing to share their knowledge.

 

[Emmetts Dairy]

Im sorry to see this posted. I personally have not seen anything offensive latey. But I have in the past.

On a positive note:

I was recently involved in a thread and I wanted to compliment all how well the advice flowed. It was'nt a battle of wits..but a sharing of methods that worked and she was able to follow it and the goat surrived!! It flowed beautifully and thats the way this place is supose to work!!

*Kate please dont go anywhere. Your advice and experience is valued here and needed. So I wish you would please rethink your choice!! I hope you reconsider!!

Personally Ive never gotten anything but good sound advice and appreciate it greatly!!!

I hope everyone can continue being respectful of eachother and look to the prime directive of this formum which is to help the GOATIES!!!!

Thats something we all can come to common ground on!!

WE LOVE GOATS!!!!

 

[Goatherd]

I realize I'm a true newbie here, but when I joined the forum I read the rules and everything your discussing here is an infraction of these rules.

Shouldn't someone have taken matters in hand before it escalated to this point?

I'm just saying...

 

[SDGsoap&dairy]

Shouldn't someone have taken matters in hand before it escalated to this point?

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They did. The thread was deleted.

 

[Roll farms]

Consider this:

Someone has a goat with...say...a Melanoma....or a hernia.

Their vet, while trying to help...is clueless.

Kate has left. Myself and others maybe don't know anything about either problem.

That person gets no help b/c Kate's gone.

That goat could suffer.

As far as "It" and how "it" goes...assuming what's meant by that is mutual respect / kindness.

My take: Being harsh or abrupt is nothing like playing real life "Mean Girls" / acting like high school. There's a huge difference.

I agree that sometimes things *have* to be said that folks won't like, and that sometimes feelings will be hurt, but I can honestly say I've never seen any of the experienced people mock anyone, or be harsh ON PURPOSE, with the intent of hurting someone.

And then excuse it w/ cliches or lame justifications.

There are some things that I now will be leery of saying or situations I'll be wary of posting about, and folks I'll be real careful about 'helping' should the need arise, for fear of how I'll be made to look or talked about for good intentions...and that's a shame.

Shame, shame, shame.
*shakes head sadly*

 

[Emmetts Dairy]

There are some things that I now will be leery of saying or situations I'll be wary of posting about, and folks I'll be real careful about 'helping' should the need arise, for fear of how I'll be made to look or talked about for good intentions...and that's a shame.

Shame, shame, shame.
*shakes head sadly*

This is what is distrubing about this behavoir for me. People will feel funny about asking questions and people will hold back on answering. There are always a few rotten apples in the basket.

We should'nt change because of those bad apples. And dont hold back Roll...becuase its the love of goats is why were all here. To learn from eachother and share experiences we had while owning goats.

If we start changing our behavoir and be afraid to answer or ask questions..then we have just empowered the "meanies"

Just be yourself Roll!! Cuz yourself works well for you!!!

 

[ksalvagno]

I think one of the biggest problems with forums on the internet is that you can't see the person's facial expressions when posting. I have read many posts that I couldn't understand why they went bad because I didn't read a response as being mean but obviously someone else had. So I think when we read posts, take the information you are getting from it and put aside what tone you think it is. If someone is giving you information, more than likely they are not trying to be personally mean. They are trying to get a point across.

Anyone has the ability to find a local mentor or vet if they feel that they can't get info from the internet.

 

[freemotion]

Shouldn't someone have taken matters in hand before it escalated to this point?

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They did. The thread was deleted.

And it will be deleted more quickly if more people hit the report button. The moderators don't know there is a problem until it gets reported. Lots of reports means quicker action.

 

[Emmetts Dairy]

I think one of the biggest problems with forums on the internet is that you can't see the person's facial expressions when posting. I have read many posts that I couldn't understand why they went bad because I didn't read a response as being mean but obviously someone else had. So I think when we read posts, take the information you are getting from it and put aside what tone you think it is. If someone is giving you information, more than likely they are not trying to be personally mean. They are trying to get a point across.

Anyone has the ability to find a local mentor or vet if they feel that they can't get info from the internet.

Great Point!!! I was thinking the same thing.

 

[elevan]

Shouldn't someone have taken matters in hand before it escalated to this point?

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They did. The thread was deleted.

And it will be deleted more quickly if more people hit the report button. The moderators don't know there is a problem until it gets reported. Lots of reports means quicker action.

Use the report button please! I had to use it once to ask that bad posts about me be deleted...I didn't want the thread gone just the bad stuff.

And if the more experienced people on here like Kate and Kim go, then why should the rest of us stay?? I beg of you Kate and Kim, please reconsider and don't go anywhere!!

Of course there will be differences of opinions. And what works for you may not work for me. What works in Georgia or Arizona may not work in Ohio and so on and so forth. And if the advise given doesn't fit with your personal faith or what you are willing to do just say so plainly. There is really no reason to get nasty. Try all or try nothing but don't get nasty about the advise.

I'm personally lucky enough to have a goat vet but he's the only one for a large area...and so not always available. Which is why I often turn to this board to read or ask questions. If the people experienced people on this board were to leave then I would have to wait sometimes days to talk to my vet - that could mean my goats would either suffer or die.

Again, I beg the experienced goat people who are considering leaving to reconsider. We (I) need your experience on this board.