I have to agree there if you go looking for negitive stuff YOU will find it... Going to another board to find it is an easy way to do it.... I personaly could care less what someone might write about me here, i'm much to old to play that game......
I do want to add that recently it seems that all the rude and short fused people seem to have gone from the forum. Given there are a few instances now and then, but not nearly so much as when I first came here and i think others will agree that it is better than it used to be.
For the most part everyone here seems to be helpful and accepting of the advice they are given and the atmosphere here is greatly improved. It's fun on here now that the atmosphere is cleared up a little. We do have the occasional bump, but mostly everyone seems quite peachy keen lately.
I come here when I have a question that i know will strike up prejudice and arguments on other forums.
E.G., the nice calm discussion about disbudding in the topic above, which strikes up arguments else where. Also, castration, scurs, prolapse, etc. you guys all answered and discussed those questions with nice helpful and calm attitudes.
Thanks again for all the calm discussions that make it easier to learn something. You guys make this forum fun and helpful. I've learned far more here than any book could tell me.
is the real issue here about goats or is it the petty juvenile b.s.? last time I checked the forum was entitled backyard herds forum: raising cows, goats sheep, horses and more... if you're here for goats and information fine.- you should be welcomed in the herd. if you're hear to create havoc and discord then leave- you really need to find a life outside of the herd! and again find a good vet and be willing to experiment/trial and error- expert is a pretty weighted term in my book and since I have found no two goats alike- well advice and direction may be helpful but one really needs dedication and love of goats to persevere!
I PERSONALLY WAS ON ANOTHER FORUM OVER A YEAR AGO, AND ALL THEY DID WAS BICKER AND MAKE PEOPLE FEEL STUPID. WHEN I MET ROLL SHE SUGGESTED I CHECK OUT THIS SITE, AND I HAVE ALWAYS FELT WELCOME AND NEVER FELT LIKE I WAS ASKING A WRONG QUESTION, OR GIVING WRONG ADVICE. LIKE THEY SAID, HANDS ON EXPERICENE IS WHAT IT TAKES TO LEARN, YOU LOOSE SOME AND THEN YOU GET SMARTER IN YOUR HEALTH MANAGEMENT, AND FEED MANAGEMENT BUT YOU CAN'T DO IT ON YOUR OWN, IT HELP 100% WHEN YOU CAN JUMP ON HERE AND ASK FOR HELP. I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A WHITE, RAISING GOATS, AND I'M STILL LEARNING, I APPRECIATE EVERY ONES INPUT WETHER I AGREE OR NOT, I'M NOT GOING TO BE NASTY TO ANY-ONE ,DONE BEEN THRU THAT ON ANOTHER FORUM. THEY MADE ME FEEL SO STUPID ALL THE TIME, OTHER THINGS LIKE MY MEMORY SOMETIMES EXCAPES ME,(FROM SURGERYS) SO I'M ASKING QUESTIONS THAT I ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWERES, JUST CAUSE I WENT BRAIN DEAD FOR THAT DAY, I REALLY LOVE THIS FORUM AND I PRAY NO-ONE LEAVES, SOME OF US HAVE THE SAME MANAGEMENT PROGRAMS, BUT ALL OF US WILL RUN INTO SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T KNOW. AND KNOWLEDGE IS BETTER AND THE EXPERICENE THEN ANY VET CAN GIVE YOU. I DONT WANT ANY-ONE TO LEAVE....................
They didn't name this site Backyard Herds for nothing.
I agree with everything said here - and appreciate all the 'experienced' advice I've been given in the past. Sometimes, however, my 'experienced' advice gets tossed aside because of other more 'experienced' advice which makes me very cautious in responding or even starting topics. We all started at the bottom and I'd like to throw this out there for thought - just because the 'experienced' have 20+ goats and I have 7 doesn't mean my word is worth less. Just because the 'experienced' have been doing this for 10+ years and I've been doing it for 3 doesn't necessarily mean I know less. And last but not least just because some of the 'experienced' have registered show goats while I have mutts doesn't mean my mutts are worth less.
We should all remember that we're here to trade thoughts, not be put down for them.
Hmmm, obviously I missed the thread that started all this, but here's my opinion anyways:
I absolutely LOVE having some place to come and ask people for advice based on their experiences. I've only had my goats for a year and a half, and could have saved a lot of heartache had I come here before I got them and been more informed before I bought them blindly. I AM a vet, and I still come here for advice. I have always been interested in goats, but in school we're lucky to get 3 or 4 classes the whole time that talk about goats. I had only 3 goat patients during school (took every one that came in)...a UC, a c-section, and a Copper Toxicity. That's it. No pracitcal, every day, hands on training. So I look to people who have done it for advice. Sometimes I disagree or don't take the advice, but I hae never acted negatively towards anyone who has given advice, b/c I ASKED for it. Just my opinion...
I'm mostly a lurker...and apparently missed the offending thread.
I just wanted to say that I really appreciate all the experienced people on here (and all the friendly fellow neophytes!). It's nice to have people to turn to when a problem arises, or to simply share in the many joys of raising goats.
But the one comon thing IS we all come here to learn and share~~~ even the Experts/ Old pros ect.... One should never be leary of asking for or giving advice. and should not be put down or beat up for giving it... thats the bottom line.....