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woodsie

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I have both sheep and goats together....and I can tell you that goats are more watchful and are constantly thinking and the sheep do keep their heads down and eat. That being said my goats are much easier to control, catch, pet, split off from the group. The goats are definitely more bonded to me and will easily follow me around...sheep not a chance!

I have some sheep that have HUGE udders and teats and look very promising for milking however I don't know if I could ever catch / teach them to stand for milking, it has taken me 8 months to just let them me touch them when I have grain. I didn't get them as lambs however but still very skiddish....if you are planning on getting sheep make sure you get them as lambs, perhaps even bottle feed them, pick the most outgoing lambs you can...so they really trust you and come up to you.

2 sheep might be better than a small "flock"...I had 4 lambs I got after they had been weaned, one was really friendly, one learned to be friendly and the other two were super skiddish and never came close to us...we sent the most friendly one (butted my kids) and one of the skiddish ones to freezer camp, and a strange thing happened...the other skiddish one calmed right down and became very friendly. I think what happened was when there was a skiddish friend, they both were very flighty and scared, more of the flock mentality. Not sure if that was just a weird thing that happened to me but it does seem that if you have a really scared/skiddish sheep, it will cause the other sheep around it to also become more skiddish....anyone else found this?

If you really want milk, I would go with goats and get a Nubian that typically have nice sweet milk and make sure you chill it well quickly...even my dad who hates anything that has a "field taste" could not taste the difference from cows milk, however it tasted fresh and creamier. Or you could go with a Nigerian Dwarf which might be easier to handle and are supposed to have super creamy milk....just make sure it comes from milking lines. IMO unless you are interested in lamb meat as well, it is a lot of hassle to keep sheep for only milk for the quantity you get, pretty expensive milk (both from time and money resources) and I would think that sheep milk would have a "taste" too if not properly chilled quickly.

You could do two sheep and two goats and see what you like better...my bests on goats! As long as you have a good fence there antics are more comical than frustrating.
 

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woodsie said:
2 sheep might be better than a small "flock"
I said "herd", didn't I? Oops.. :hide

woodsie said:
IMO unless you are interested in lamb meat as well, it is a lot of hassle to keep sheep for only milk for the quantity you get, pretty expensive milk (both from time and money resources) and I would think that sheep milk would have a "taste" too if not properly chilled quickly.
I do plan to use offspring for meat purposes. (I love lamb!) If they are as prolific as I've read, I will be in heaven come butchering time. :love I've never had goat; I assume that we would also like goat meat but I can't be sure. We eat deer on a regular basis, though, so I'm sure it would be fine.

woodsie said:
You could do two sheep and two goats and see what you like better.
You people are enablers!! :lol: I may end up doing that, though. A few of each for direct, daily comparison seems like a not-so-bad idea. Got anything against LaMancha's? They are my top pick for goats. Katahdins are my top pick for sheep despite not being a dairy breed. I may be too stubborn for my own good. :rolleyes:
 

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All the sheep milk I've had didnt have a taste. I know it wasn't child properly because we just left it out while we finished chores. As for the tameness issue. Goats are naturally more friendly, but sheep do tame down fine. They'll be easy to train especially if you use grain. Trying out one or two of each seems like a great idea!

Also if you want a meat breed that will give more milk than the khatahdins try dorsets. We have some 1/2 dorsets ewes who give a ton of milk. We easily milked out enough for a bottle lambs while leaving some for their babies.
 

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Are Dorsets a hair or wool breed?
 

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Ok. I'm a totally ignorant about sheep so please bear with me. Here's a small list of questions.

1. What is "VM"?
2. How much wool does one Dorset make a year?
3. How difficult is it to learn to shear a sheep?
4. How much could I sell the wool for?

BrownSheep, I'm starting to see the appeal of having goats if my only viable sheep options are wool breeds.
 

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Google D O R P E R ... a sheep breed developed in S Africa using the Dorset ram on Persian fat rumped ewes. I think that one will be very impressed as they browse more like the goat, produce more twins, are a meat sheep and they shed their wool (today, it costs more to sheer a sheep that one can get for the wool ).
 

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Haha yeah wool, oddly, seems to scare off a lot of people.

Vm is vegetative matter. Doesn't really matter unless you are selling to hand spinners.
They average 5-9 lbs of wool.
The most difficult thing about shear is finding the right shears. I can do a sheep in abou 1/2 an hour on a show stand, but I haven't learned how to get a whole fleece off yet.
And like I said its not hard to find pro- shears for pretty cheap.
I sell mine in a wool pool an I can't remember the going price right of the top of my head.
This site can tell you about wool pools in your area as well as shearers.
http://www.sheepusa.org/Wool_Pools
http://www.sheepusa.org/Shearer_Directory

Eta. Dorpers might be a good fit. They produce more milk I think. I forget about all the hair breeds :lol:
 

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Bossroo said:
Google D O R P E R ... a sheep breed developed in S Africa using the Dorset ram on Persian fat rumped ewes. I think that one will be very impressed as they browse more like the goat, produce more twins, are a meat sheep and they shed their wool (today, it costs more to sheer a sheep that one can get for the wool ).
I've got Dorpers, some are so tame they think they are lap dogs! My wife is always teasing me about my 'girlfriends' in the paddock, so they can defineatly be tamed. They also have some VERY large bags (udders).

One of my 'girlfriends' lambed in December, and we tried milking her. She didn't mind a bit, but her lamb wasn't quite sure she wanted us messing with 'her' stuff. The milk was rich and good, maybe slightly sweet, but we didn't get much due to lack of technique. We will probably invest in a milking machine before we go after it in ernest.
 
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