Treating strongyle worms any adice??

Georgiamainers

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Irish's fecal came back that she is positive for this type of worm. I'm reading Safegaurd/Panacur isn't much helpful. Vet suggested Ivermectin.
I have a baby I'm feeding the goats milk and I can't afford to toss it.

l've had her on weekly herbal dewormer.
 

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Sheep and goats are affected mostly by the strongyle (meaning round) family of worms. In warm, moist climates, the barber pole worm (Haemonchus contortus) is the primary parasite affecting small ruminants.
Ivermectin is gonna be your best route. Safeguard / panacur are NOT gonna help here. If you don't get rid of the problem you're not gonna have a goat to milk.

And I would say stop wasting your money on the herbal dewormer because it obviously didn't help.

eta: I'm not against herbal remedies that are proven but when tests come back to the contrary of them working then they are a waste of money imo. So please don't anyone take offense to my suggesting that in this case the OP stop using them. Preventing worms is a full on management project and involves many factors.

Here is a possible solution / management to prevent future problems (that is natural but should not be considered the be all end all and doesn't offer immediate treatment results only prevention / management)
 

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How long do you toss milk on the Ivermectin?
 

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Georgiamainers said:
How long do you toss milk on the Ivermectin?
From fiascofarm.com

Milk withholding time:

In the US: 36 days
In the UK: 14 days
My personal withholding time: 4 days
Why is my personal withdraw so much shorter? Ivomec is used on humans in third world countries. The withdrawal times given on the package is set by the FDA after testing on cows (the use of Ivomec in goats is "extra label"- it has not been tested on goats) and it is said that after the regulated number of days there are no traces at all of drug left in the (cow) milk. You can see the in the UK, where the drug has been tested on goats, the withdrawal is shorter than in the US. Here on our farm, the milk I milk from our goats is consumed by only two people, me and my husband (both adults). I personally am not concerned about the very small traces of wormer that may be in the milk after four days, since I know the wormer is safe to use on humans anyway. This why my person withdrawal is four days. I drank this 4 day withdrawal milk for many years with no ill effect until I switch the using my Herbal Worm Formula. It is up to you to make your own choice about how long you decide to withhold the milk.
eta: I personally use the 14 days...but it is up to you to decide what is best for you.
 

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I saw that on Fias and said "Whoa! 36 days!!!" :/
 

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Georgiamainers said:
I saw that on Fias and said "Whoa! 36 days!!!" :/
IMO the US tends to go overboard on precautions especially when there isn't a lot of research behind it. So rather than doing the research and putting in a proper number we tend to over exaggerate the precaution.
 

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I've drank it (for years) w/out tossing it after giving Ivo...

*shrug*

I know they use it on humans, it doesn't bother me any, either mentally or physically. I'm not saying anyone else should, just that I don't and I'm still alive.
 

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I have to agree, I dont toss my milk after worming.

I also use ivermection on my birds and still eat my eggs....
I also l use herbal wormer most of the time but if a fecal were to comes back i needed help I'd use what i must..( i havent used Ivermection yet this yr fecals are good)

I also do not worm just because.... I worm only when needed.
 

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My 10 month old baby boy is on raw goats milk as are the rest of the little ones- I don't want them to get tummy cramps or worse. Me and hubby, we'll make it!
 

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Georgiamainers said:
My 10 month old baby boy is on raw goats milk as are the rest of the little ones- I don't want them to get tummy cramps or worse. Me and hubby, we'll make it!
I would say when your talking about giving the milk to your {HUMAN} kids then you should at least go by the UK milk withdrawal recommendation if not the US one.

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