ADGA paperwork issue

[babsbag]

I stand corrected...the great and powerful @Southern by choice obviously has a better memory than I and she is correct.

ADGA Article VII of the Bylaws

It is required that all goats presented for registry or recordation be tattooed before the application is made.

One of the nice things about registering them online is that you know immediately if the tattoos are correct. I have accidentally assigned duplicate numbers in the same year. Glad I hadn't actually done the tattoo.

 

[ragdollcatlady]

The AGS certificate just means that AGS has accepted that herd name and tattoo and they are assigned to your friend in THEIR book. The tattoos are probably already assigned to another person in the ADGA books and therefore are unable to be used for your friends herd.

As for the "THE (goats name here)" instead of "Herd name (goats name here)".... ADGA will only allow your herd name at the start of the goats name, if you have paid them for the use of and they have approved the herd name through themselves. The herd name might already be in use by an ADGA member or she may not have asked and paid for the use of that name.

I like AGS better as the rules are simpler and easier to understand. I generally reregister with ADGA after completing my AGS certificates, since ADGA is so much more complicated.

 

[Ferguson K]

So, they would only have the herd name if the breeder had registered them then I transferred? Instead of me t registering them for the first time, both goats in question were purchased at weaning.

Lyra had no issues except the loss of her breeders herd name.

 

[babsbag]

She had to submit the paperwork or give it to you filled out with a transfer. I am the breeder, I am also the one submitting it for registration, and then I transfer it to the new owner and they get the papers from ADGA. So as the breeder on the ADGA registration application my name goes in #10 and #11, and then I fill out and sign #12 when I sell a kid that has not been registered.

 

[Ferguson K]

I only had one paper, the "transfer" section was signed on both. Also sent in bills of sale.

At least I'll know for next time.

Does this mean when I submit the paperwork for the buckling I should send more than just the service memo?

 

[Ferguson K]

Clarifying, this buckling:

Not Lyra or Hollar.

 

[babsbag]

Is this the paper the breeder gave you?

 

[Ferguson K]

Yes, it did.

Section 10, 11, 12 filled out by both breeders in question.
Also received an ADGA "transfer" paper for both goats.
Also received bill of sale on both goats.

All three papers sent in at time of registration.

The buck, "The Hollar Too" is the one who had three rejections.

The doeling, "The DA Lyra" just wasn't approved to have the heard name.

The buck's Dam and Sire are both triple registered, as he will be. His breeder was recognized by AGS, ADGA, and NDGA. Pretty sure she was the same under all three registries. His tattoo was rejected, so I added a "Q", but that doesn't tell me why his herd name was also rejected from his paperwork?

The doeling was in the same boat. Everything except her herd name was accepted.

 

[babsbag]

I never send in a service memo as I own the buck too so you don't need one. The breeder filled out the tattoo information, and had her herd name on the application?

Is the doeling from the same breeder? Same tattoo?

 

[babsbag]

So, they would only have the herd name if the breeder had registered them then I transferred? Instead of me t registering them for the first time, both goats in question were purchased at weaning.

Lyra had no issues except the loss of her breeders herd name.

If the breeder registered a herd name with ADGA then it would go before the kid's name as she owned the dam at the time of breeding; it wouldn't matter who submitted the papers as long as the breeder signed the application in the correct places and transferred them to do you. So perhaps the breeder never registered a herd name with ADGA???