Herd Master
Oct 23, 2011
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East Texas
Yea, a 22-250 with thermal sights, silencer, and subsonic one will ever know.
open sights, 7.62x39 or Weatherby .270 with a Busnell Banner 4x12. I sleep well at night, because I and my neighbors got rid of them. We got tired of running them back and forth on to each other's property.


True BYH Addict
Mar 13, 2015
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Shadow Hills, CA
We are also within the city limits and are not allowed to fire weapons. However, in defense of yourselves or your livestock it is permissible. Considering how far a bullet can travel you better hit what you aim at and know what is in the line of fire if you miss. If you order a large coyote size Havahart trap, you can trap a coyote with a dead chicken in it for bait. A .22 caliber rifle or pistol will put it down quietly once trapped. Lock up your own dogs though since we tried this method and caught our own LGD the first day! LOL

The Rhodesian Ridgeback is an excellent dog bred to hunt and kill lions in Africa (former Rhodesia). It is not a Livestock Guardian Dog, but rather a type of hunting dog that follows the scent of it prey and then brings it down. They are (were)used in a pack to hunt and kill lions, leopards, and other large predators in Africa. I believe they have been used to some extent here on mountain lion and possibly wild hogs. They are not a Livestock Guardian Dog like the Pyr, Anatolian, Akbash, etc. I would not recommend keeping hunting dogs in with my flock hoping they will kill the coyotes since they might decide to chase the sheep if they are bored. Also some herding dogs need to be kept away from running with the flock since they have been known to work the sheep by themselves just for fun, leading to sheep that cannot graze in peace and lose weight. Irish Wolfhounds and Borzois were originally used to hunt wolves but it was long in the past and most present members of those breeds are more likely to be couch potatoes. One wolfhound breeder told me that Irish Wolfhounds are not even good house guardians. Our neighbors have Borzois and they say their dogs prefer to lay around inside rather than chasing even a rabbit. Hunting dogs have to be trained to follow the scent you want them to hunt. Bird dogs are trained to ignore rabbits and deer when scenting birds. Hounds are trained to follow the scent of the game they are to hunt and ignore other scent.

If you have 1 or 2 LGDs and coyotes are still getting in and killing your stock, you are under dogged. Take a close look at your property terrain, and walk your fences to find where predators may be getting in and hiding. Are the predators luring your guardians away and then slipping in to kill while they are out of the way on the other side of the property? This happened to us on 5 fenced acres with 2 Anatolians. An influx of coyote packs after fire season tripled our predator load. Because of the terrain our 2 dogs were unable to protect our sheep when they were left out to graze at night. Our 2 dogs were exhausted working day and night. After losing 2 lambs (which were killed but not eaten since our dogs got to them right after the kill) we started locking the sheep up at night again and also added another dog.

Changing our shepherding practices and adding a 3rd Anatolian should do the trick - we have not lost any more animals. With the rain we have gotten in southern California this year, the brush is 5' tall now right up to the fence line and on the other side allowing predators to approach closely and obscuring the dogs' sightlines. This makes it makes it hard for the dogs and they have to working harder. Locking up the sheep at night in night folds close to the house will keep the flock safe and allow the dogs to patrol around them more easily. Especially since we have 2 flocks now having separated the ewes with the rams for breeding.

LGD breeds deter predators by their size and ferocity while living with the flock or herd. Except in areas that are home to packs of wolves, 4 guardian dogs are usually enough, even against cougar and bear. Most predators won't come after prey if there is a large barking LGD defending the flock. Predators do not have HMOs and cannot afford to become injured. An injury in the wild b=means death. Usually they will avoid the protected flock for easier pickings down the block. Wolf packs are a different story. In areas where wolves have been reintroduced in the US, or in Canada where they were never eradicated, you need a much larger pack of LGDs since some wolf packs number up to 20. Also wolves are much larger than most coyotes (which only range in size from 35 to 65 lbs, depending on their territorial range). Wolves are the reason most LGDs are so large.

Hope this helps.