greybeard
Herd Master
For mechanic type work:Proto USA" and KS
Proto, K-D (I've never heard of KS) some Crescent, the older Thorenson, Idestro, P&C/Plomb, Williams and of course the Snap-On/MATCO/MAC tool truck brands are professional grade tools. You can (and I have) made a living with them. Blackhawk was not a bad tool either, one of P&C's brands. Of all the hand wrenches I ever owned and still own, Williams beat them all hands down. Not pretty and shiny, but when you put a 1 1/4" Williams box end on a nut, the wrench was going to win.
(trivia--P&C became Plomb which became Proto. A competitor named Plumb (spelled with a 'u') is often confused with the old Plomb tools but was a vastly inferior product. The 'o' in Plomb was often stamped as a closed top 'v' or diamond shape.)
Even the older Craftsman, B&D and Stanley, Husky, TrueCraft wrenches, ratchets and sockets are at best, entry level brand or semi-serious backyard/hobbyist type toolage. Like some of my girlfriends from the bad old days...'ok around the house but you don't want to get out on the road with 'em'.
The newer ones? I have no use for them even at my advanced age.
Kobalt (Lowes own brand) fits in this niche as well. They're 'ok' but you don't want to risk a job or your reputation on them, regardless of what their ads and commercials tout.
Sadly, Stanley has now bought all P&C brands but hopefully hasn't put their crappy quality into the Proto line.
The big draw for Craftsman was always their inexpensive buy-in, their pretty look, and their famous no-questions-asked return policy...especially for ratchets.
Newer Craftsman, Stanley, B&D (probably all one company at this point) is not much if any better than the Chinese junk you can buy at K-Mart.
Forget boxes and compartments for sockets. Buy as many socket rails of whatever type you like & as you need for each drive size and be done with it:
(not mine but I use this type, tho I also have some of the metal spring types)
Don't get me started on the rather odd sizes of 25/32" or 19/32" wrenches and sockets, but I'm probably one of the few here that has used them for what they were actually made for.
Someone gives you a socket and ratchet set like the one below, do 2 things as soon as you unwrap it from it's pretty Christmas/birthday/Father's Day paper. (3 if you count strangling whoever gave** them to you)
1. Take the sockets out of the cheap molded plastic box and put them on rails.
2. Throw the dam molded plastic box away because:
a. The molded plastic latch will soon break.
b. The molded plastic hinges will soon break.
c. The sockets are not going to stay in place if you drop the cheap molded plastic box with the molded plastic lid open.
d. The cheap plastic molded box takes up too much room in the box you are actually working out of.
** Men end up with a crapload of this kind of cheap extra sockets because wives, children, sisters, grandchildren, and girlfriends (very possibly may all be the same relationship if location is in the Southeast USA) all think it's a cheap easy quick way to fulfill some holiday obligation instead of buying the guy what he really wants or needs.
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