Stillborn kid, very sick Doe? Help!

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It sounds like you got the vet out just in time! I hope she continues to improve and is restored back to good health.
 

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Please seriously consider having a fecal analysis done after 7-10 days to make sure the problem has been rectified. Hope she recovers and sorry for the loss of the kid.
 

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Glad you had the vet out and you were able to save the doe. At first it sounded like retained placenta or kid but from description of placental debris sounds more like the kid died earlier in pregnancy and was just evacuated now. Probably the overload of parasites caused loss of kid during pregnancy. Important to check fecal load again even though you have treated her. Also treat others in same pen since can be spread through herd. If kids in herd are going to nurse treat them too as soon as safe. Make sure parasite treatment is safe for pregnant does and kids. Also if you use the milk for household, know the withdrawal time before drinking or cooking with the milk. For lice you can use sheep pour on treatment but again know withdrawal time and safety for pregnant animals.

Have you done CAE testing? We had kids born a month prematurely once and doe was from a herd with "suspected" cases of CAE. The breeder swore she tested but word was . . . . Saved 3 of quads, made jackets of socks, they couldn't stand for 2 weeks so had to massage legs and stomach to help them evacuate. Doe listless and died 2 days later. Luckily we heated treat all colostrum and didn't allow kids to nurse moms ever so kids grew up beautiful and free of CAE. Another beautiful doe from same herd tested positive though and we sent her to auction. That one lost her kids.

She looks like she is feeling a lot better with her mouth full of leaves. LOL Once she is fully restored to health she may become the dominant one!
 

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I have terrible news, Miracle had to be put down this morning. She became worse very quickly and was suffering terribly. :(
The vet said it could have been an ulcer, but nothing was confirmed, it happened too fast.

Thank you all for the help through this experience, it has been a tragic one for us here.
 

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In ten to fourteen days you need to deworm her again. L4 stage of barberpole worm encysts in gut wall and come out of 'hibernation' when you deworm that first time. I would also recomend deworming the other goats now and again in two weeks. exametha sone helps kick start red blood cell production , but do not use in pregnant goat. Extra iron, bitter black strop mollasses is good source, and B vitamins are needed daily. She is not out of the woods until she starts making new red blood cells which mature in about 45 days. once she is eating hay well adding a 16 to 18% protien feed will help. A good medicated calf starter is my choice as it has coccidia med. while adult goats are restant to coccidia, any goat that is as immune compromised as this is at risk. Good luck and I have been there, too.
 

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sorry, dexamethasone is miss spelled. Also, late term abortion may be caused by toxoplasmosis and chlymidia (pinkeye) as well as parasite overload. Again, have had all happen over the years and understand.
 

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So sorry to hear of this :hugs
 

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So sorry to hear this. It sounded like you and your vet were getting a handle in the problem. She looked so cute with mouth full of leaves! :(

Do you have a close state lab that can do a necropsy cheaply? If this was something the others could get it might help you as least rule out some diseases. I think you should still worm the others on a regular basis and if possible do some blood testing for Brucellosis, CAE, Chlamydia, and a few other things. Drawing blood is not expensive, pack the sealed blood vials in popcorn (artificial or real) and mail to whatever local university or state lab does testing for your area with your check. They will often be able to email your test results in just a few days. On the west coast we used to send to Washington State U for CAE bloodwork in goats.
 
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