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Love the pic of him with the other dog -- looking up at him like he's his "hero". Cute.

Your mom looks good....relaxed and smiling.
That IS his hero! I took care of him for 6 wks, bathing him 3-4 times a week for the mange, feeding him special foods and rubbing coconut and castor oil into his skin so he wouldn't dry out from all the bathing. Taking him for walks each day and loving on him.

What does he do as soon as he joins Ben? Starts acting like Ben is the pack leader! :th We call him Ben's shadow...Ben can't take a step that this little black dog isn't following him, snuggling with him and generally sticking to him like glue. :D

So, while Ben treats me like the pack leader, that little dog only sees Ben as his sun, moon and stars. It's cute but can get a little trying sometimes when I need him to return to me, pronto!

Mom turned 85 last month...she looks and moves pretty good for an ol' Bat! :D
 

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I saw this forum doesn't have many posts on it and not much activity, which saddens me. I'm a big fan of using natural means to maintain health when at all possible, especially for animals. Lately I've been exploring the same methods for my dogs, though I've used natural methods on them down through the years I've never fully committed to using only these methods for their fleas.

I've noticed the dogs HATE the chemical flea treatments that go on their backs...Jake will duck and try to get away from me when I place them here and try to roll afterwards. They don't have a strong odor, so he's not afraid of the odor....he also tries to avoid consuming the worm paste and this dog will eat most anything. I think it's natural that the animal doesn't prefer to eat something he knows is poisonous and not just to the parasites, but to him as well.

I've been doing some research on such things as heartworm and found some interesting articles that make perfect sense to me:

http://thewholedog.org/heartworm.html



I know this is a touchy subject, as many like to think that their vet is always right and that the method you have chosen to keep your dog's health is the most intelligent choice or you wouldn't have chosen it.....but most of the time I think folks just go with the flow of popular opinion and what they are told is best by the person selling the meds for it, and do no real research into the why of things and possible, more healthy, alternatives to a hand full of drugs. That is true for human healthcare as well. No offense is meant by this post, it's for information purposes and for those wishing to prevent illness rather than treat it, but do it in such a way that our animals don't have to be poisoned in the method.

I'm not saying vaccines and pills are bad things, they do a lot of good in this world and are necessary to some for many reasons, but for something as simple as prevention of illness, in dog and in human, it pays to explore the options a little deeper and see where we can prevent illness from ever occurring with more natural methods, as sometimes when drugs are used as a first option they actually create more problems than they prevented or cured.

Studies done on pumpkin seeds, ginger root, etc. have shown surprising results compared to traditional dewormer meds.

http://connection.ebscohost.com/c/a...xima-pumpkin-seeds-carica-papaya-papaya-seeds

A little info about using ginger root for heartworm:

http://www.yankee-shelties.com/ginger-for-heartworm-preventative.html

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3668217

A list of herbs for anthelmintic purposes:

http://www.motherherbs.com/anthelmintic.html

This year I'm going to refrain from dripping poison on the dog's backs as a first resort...I'm going to explore clay and sulfur powder mix to smother and possibly desiccate the fleas. I see no real change after using the flea treatments anyway, so I think they are more for my peace of mind than anything else...they don't yield much at all in results, so why am I buying them and using them? Because of public opinion, mostly. The public thinks they work, so I must agree...but I don't. So why am I continuing in this practice?


I'm not going to worm at all~I usually worm once in the spring, once in the fall, just as a matter of course and not because I actually see eggs in the stool....again, because "they" say it's the smart thing to do. I'm going to stop that simply because I don't see worms in the stool and the dogs show fine condition all the while, so why go through these motions? I'm going to feed them ginger root, pumpkins seeds, garlic and such instead. At least these won't be adding poison to their diet and they love eating them.

I'm going to let them manage their own worms also, by chewing on those grasses that work much like folks claim DE does~the grasses that have very sharp edges, that do not break down in digestion, but pass through the bowels cutting up any worms residing there. Dogs, cats, foxes, coyotes, wolves...all of them chew on those grasses in the spring and they aren't doing it because of a sudden grass craving, it's to naturally rid themselves of worms.

Same for chickens...I've never had worms in my flocks with the exception of one bird received from elsewhere and killed soon after~she had tapeworm~and I do believe it was because she was being raised in a coop with cement floors and had no access to the outdoors. What I do find in my flocks are small intestines clean of any worms and the occasional gizzard holding those tough, razor edged grasses that the carnivores have chosen to ingest. With all the tender greens here to be had, finding those saw tooth blades in the gizzards was at first surprising....but then it finally dawned on me. The birds too know how to rid themselves of worms and, if given the chance, they do so very well as I have never fed my flock any chemical dewormers.

So, this post is an encouragement to others wanting to move in the same direction...back to nature, as God has not left these animals without defense against disease and parasites if we would just let them have access to what they need to avoid it and stop putting poison on their skin and in their mouths.
Those are very helpful, I will take a look at those websites some more after work, thank you very much for this effort. I really appreciate it.
 

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I saw this forum doesn't have many posts on it and not much activity, which saddens me. I'm a big fan of using natural means to maintain health when at all possible, especially for animals. Lately I've been exploring the same methods for my dogs, though I've used natural methods on them down through the years I've never fully committed to using only these methods for their fleas.

I've noticed the dogs HATE the chemical flea treatments that go on their backs...Jake will duck and try to get away from me when I place them here and try to roll afterwards. They don't have a strong odor, so he's not afraid of the odor....he also tries to avoid consuming the worm paste and this dog will eat most anything. I think it's natural that the animal doesn't prefer to eat something he knows is poisonous and not just to the parasites, but to him as well.

I've been doing some research on such things as heartworm and found some interesting articles that make perfect sense to me:

http://thewholedog.org/heartworm.html



I know this is a touchy subject, as many like to think that their vet is always right and that the method you have chosen to keep your dog's health is the most intelligent choice or you wouldn't have chosen it.....but most of the time I think folks just go with the flow of popular opinion and what they are told is best by the person selling the meds for it, and do no real research into the why of things and possible, more healthy, alternatives to a hand full of drugs. That is true for human healthcare as well. No offense is meant by this post, it's for information purposes and for those wishing to prevent illness rather than treat it, but do it in such a way that our animals don't have to be poisoned in the method.

I'm not saying vaccines and pills are bad things, they do a lot of good in this world and are necessary to some for many reasons, but for something as simple as prevention of illness, in dog and in human, it pays to explore the options a little deeper and see where we can prevent illness from ever occurring with more natural methods, as sometimes when drugs are used as a first option they actually create more problems than they prevented or cured.

Studies done on pumpkin seeds, ginger root, etc. have shown surprising results compared to traditional dewormer meds.

http://connection.ebscohost.com/c/a...xima-pumpkin-seeds-carica-papaya-papaya-seeds

A little info about using ginger root for heartworm:

http://www.yankee-shelties.com/ginger-for-heartworm-preventative.html

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3668217

A list of herbs for anthelmintic purposes:

http://www.motherherbs.com/anthelmintic.html

This year I'm going to refrain from dripping poison on the dog's backs as a first resort...I'm going to explore clay and sulfur powder mix to smother and possibly desiccate the fleas. I see no real change after using the flea treatments anyway, so I think they are more for my peace of mind than anything else...they don't yield much at all in results, so why am I buying them and using them? Because of public opinion, mostly. The public thinks they work, so I must agree...but I don't. So why am I continuing in this practice?


I'm not going to worm at all~I usually worm once in the spring, once in the fall, just as a matter of course and not because I actually see eggs in the stool....again, because "they" say it's the smart thing to do. I'm going to stop that simply because I don't see worms in the stool and the dogs show fine condition all the while, so why go through these motions? I'm going to feed them ginger root, pumpkins seeds, garlic and such instead. At least these won't be adding poison to their diet and they love eating them.

I'm going to let them manage their own worms also, by chewing on those grasses that work much like folks claim DE does~the grasses that have very sharp edges, that do not break down in digestion, but pass through the bowels cutting up any worms residing there. Dogs, cats, foxes, coyotes, wolves...all of them chew on those grasses in the spring and they aren't doing it because of a sudden grass craving, it's to naturally rid themselves of worms.

Same for chickens...I've never had worms in my flocks with the exception of one bird received from elsewhere and killed soon after~she had tapeworm~and I do believe it was because she was being raised in a coop with cement floors and had no access to the outdoors. What I do find in my flocks are small intestines clean of any worms and the occasional gizzard holding those tough, razor edged grasses that the carnivores have chosen to ingest. With all the tender greens here to be had, finding those saw tooth blades in the gizzards was at first surprising....but then it finally dawned on me. The birds too know how to rid themselves of worms and, if given the chance, they do so very well as I have never fed my flock any chemical dewormers.

So, this post is an encouragement to others wanting to move in the same direction...back to nature, as God has not left these animals without defense against disease and parasites if we would just let them have access to what they need to avoid it and stop putting poison on their skin and in their mouths.
This is a very in-depth list, I know that this will help me with my dog's worm issue. Thank you very much for the post, this i know will help me a lot.!!
 

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Do you have proof? I'd like to be natural...but I live in a warm, wet climate and parasites are tough here. Have you done before and after fecals? If I had irrefutable proof of efficiency I'd no doubt give it a try. :)
same here, more than anything else, when you live in a warm climate. parasites are inevitable, I hope you can provide me tips on how to avoid or at least minimize this possibility.
 

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I saw this forum doesn't have many posts on it and not much activity, which saddens me. I'm a big fan of using natural means to maintain health when at all possible, especially for animals. Lately I've been exploring the same methods for my dogs, though I've used natural methods on them down through the years I've never fully committed to using only these methods for their fleas.

I've noticed the dogs HATE the chemical flea treatments that go on their backs...Jake will duck and try to get away from me when I place them here and try to roll afterwards. They don't have a strong odor, so he's not afraid of the odor....he also tries to avoid consuming the worm paste and this dog will eat most anything. I think it's natural that the animal doesn't prefer to eat something he knows is poisonous and not just to the parasites, but to him as well.

I've been doing some research on such things as heartworm and found some interesting articles that make perfect sense to me:

http://thewholedog.org/heartworm.html



I know this is a touchy subject, as many like to think that their vet is always right and that the method you have chosen to keep your dog's health is the most intelligent choice or you wouldn't have chosen it.....but most of the time I think folks just go with the flow of popular opinion and what they are told is best by the person selling the meds for it, and do no real research into the why of things and possible, more healthy, alternatives to a hand full of drugs. That is true for human healthcare as well. No offense is meant by this post, it's for information purposes and for those wishing to prevent illness rather than treat it, but do it in such a way that our animals don't have to be poisoned in the method.

I'm not saying vaccines and pills are bad things, they do a lot of good in this world and are necessary to some for many reasons, but for something as simple as prevention of illness, in dog and in human, it pays to explore the options a little deeper and see where we can prevent illness from ever occurring with more natural methods, as sometimes when drugs are used as a first option they actually create more problems than they prevented or cured.

Studies done on pumpkin seeds, ginger root, etc. have shown surprising results compared to traditional dewormer meds.

http://connection.ebscohost.com/c/a...xima-pumpkin-seeds-carica-papaya-papaya-seeds

A little info about using ginger root for heartworm:

http://www.yankee-shelties.com/ginger-for-heartworm-preventative.html

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3668217

A list of herbs for anthelmintic purposes:

http://www.motherherbs.com/anthelmintic.html

This year I'm going to refrain from dripping poison on the dog's backs as a first resort...I'm going to explore clay and sulfur powder mix to smother and possibly desiccate the fleas. I see no real change after using the flea treatments anyway, so I think they are more for my peace of mind than anything else...they don't yield much at all in results, so why am I buying them and using them? Because of public opinion, mostly. The public thinks they work, so I must agree...but I don't. So why am I continuing in this practice?


I'm not going to worm at all~I usually worm once in the spring, once in the fall, just as a matter of course and not because I actually see eggs in the stool....again, because "they" say it's the smart thing to do. I'm going to stop that simply because I don't see worms in the stool and the dogs show fine condition all the while, so why go through these motions? I'm going to feed them ginger root, pumpkins seeds, garlic and such instead. At least these won't be adding poison to their diet and they love eating them.

I'm going to let them manage their own worms also, by chewing on those grasses that work much like folks claim DE does~the grasses that have very sharp edges, that do not break down in digestion, but pass through the bowels cutting up any worms residing there. Dogs, cats, foxes, coyotes, wolves...all of them chew on those grasses in the spring and they aren't doing it because of a sudden grass craving, it's to naturally rid themselves of worms.

Same for chickens...I've never had worms in my flocks with the exception of one bird received from elsewhere and killed soon after~she had tapeworm~and I do believe it was because she was being raised in a coop with cement floors and had no access to the outdoors. What I do find in my flocks are small intestines clean of any worms and the occasional gizzard holding those tough, razor edged grasses that the carnivores have chosen to ingest. With all the tender greens here to be had, finding those saw tooth blades in the gizzards was at first surprising....but then it finally dawned on me. The birds too know how to rid themselves of worms and, if given the chance, they do so very well as I have never fed my flock any chemical dewormers.

So, this post is an encouragement to others wanting to move in the same direction...back to nature, as God has not left these animals without defense against disease and parasites if we would just let them have access to what they need to avoid it and stop putting poison on their skin and in their mouths.
Apple Cider Vinegar, It works because it raises the alkaline levels in the dog's intestines unlike any other vinegar, rendering it inhospitable for parasites and worms.
 

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I saw this forum doesn't have many posts on it and not much activity, which saddens me. I'm a big fan of using natural means to maintain health when at all possible, especially for animals. Lately I've been exploring the same methods for my dogs, though I've used natural methods on them down through the years I've never fully committed to using only these methods for their fleas.

I've noticed the dogs HATE the chemical flea treatments that go on their backs...Jake will duck and try to get away from me when I place them here and try to roll afterwards. They don't have a strong odor, so he's not afraid of the odor....he also tries to avoid consuming the worm paste and this dog will eat most anything. I think it's natural that the animal doesn't prefer to eat something he knows is poisonous and not just to the parasites, but to him as well.

I've been doing some research on such things as heartworm and found some interesting articles that make perfect sense to me:

http://thewholedog.org/heartworm.html



I know this is a touchy subject, as many like to think that their vet is always right and that the method you have chosen to keep your dog's health is the most intelligent choice or you wouldn't have chosen it.....but most of the time I think folks just go with the flow of popular opinion and what they are told is best by the person selling the meds for it, and do no real research into the why of things and possible, more healthy, alternatives to a hand full of drugs. That is true for human healthcare as well. No offense is meant by this post, it's for information purposes and for those wishing to prevent illness rather than treat it, but do it in such a way that our animals don't have to be poisoned in the method.

I'm not saying vaccines and pills are bad things, they do a lot of good in this world and are necessary to some for many reasons, but for something as simple as prevention of illness, in dog and in human, it pays to explore the options a little deeper and see where we can prevent illness from ever occurring with more natural methods, as sometimes when drugs are used as a first option they actually create more problems than they prevented or cured.

Studies done on pumpkin seeds, ginger root, etc. have shown surprising results compared to traditional dewormer meds.

http://connection.ebscohost.com/c/a...xima-pumpkin-seeds-carica-papaya-papaya-seeds

A little info about using ginger root for heartworm:

http://www.yankee-shelties.com/ginger-for-heartworm-preventative.html

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3668217

A list of herbs for anthelmintic purposes:

http://www.motherherbs.com/anthelmintic.html

This year I'm going to refrain from dripping poison on the dog's backs as a first resort...I'm going to explore clay and sulfur powder mix to smother and possibly desiccate the fleas. I see no real change after using the flea treatments anyway, so I think they are more for my peace of mind than anything else...they don't yield much at all in results, so why am I buying them and using them? Because of public opinion, mostly. The public thinks they work, so I must agree...but I don't. So why am I continuing in this practice?


I'm not going to worm at all~I usually worm once in the spring, once in the fall, just as a matter of course and not because I actually see eggs in the stool....again, because "they" say it's the smart thing to do. I'm going to stop that simply because I don't see worms in the stool and the dogs show fine condition all the while, so why go through these motions? I'm going to feed them ginger root, pumpkins seeds, garlic and such instead. At least these won't be adding poison to their diet and they love eating them.

I'm going to let them manage their own worms also, by chewing on those grasses that work much like folks claim DE does~the grasses that have very sharp edges, that do not break down in digestion, but pass through the bowels cutting up any worms residing there. Dogs, cats, foxes, coyotes, wolves...all of them chew on those grasses in the spring and they aren't doing it because of a sudden grass craving, it's to naturally rid themselves of worms.

Same for chickens...I've never had worms in my flocks with the exception of one bird received from elsewhere and killed soon after~she had tapeworm~and I do believe it was because she was being raised in a coop with cement floors and had no access to the outdoors. What I do find in my flocks are small intestines clean of any worms and the occasional gizzard holding those tough, razor edged grasses that the carnivores have chosen to ingest. With all the tender greens here to be had, finding those saw tooth blades in the gizzards was at first surprising....but then it finally dawned on me. The birds too know how to rid themselves of worms and, if given the chance, they do so very well as I have never fed my flock any chemical dewormers.

So, this post is an encouragement to others wanting to move in the same direction...back to nature, as God has not left these animals without defense against disease and parasites if we would just let them have access to what they need to avoid it and stop putting poison on their skin and in their mouths.
Adult heartworms – which may occupy the vessels of the heart, lungs, and blood – are killed with an adulticide. The arsenic-based poison, Melarsomine dihydrochloride is sold under the name Immiticide. For the treatment, dogs are administered a series of three Immiticide injections by a veterinarian.
 
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