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Buck Rag not Working

Discussion in 'Breeds & Breeding - Goats' started by Shedinator, Nov 25, 2018.

  1. Dec 10, 2018
    B&B Happy goats

    B&B Happy goats Herd Master Golden Herd Member

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    Some of ours sneak one in at night when its quiet....some are more public about it. Good luck with your breeding. Hope she takes.
     
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  2. Dec 13, 2018
    Wehner Homestead

    Wehner Homestead Herd Master

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    Make sure you note the dates he arrived and leaves in case you don’t see any action. That way you’ll know the window to expect babies in.
     
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  3. Dec 15, 2018
    Shedinator

    Shedinator Exploring the pasture

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    It's in my calendar!

    He's been acting extra dominant the last few days. When I went out last night, one of my girls had her tail sticking straight up (they usually keep them down) and her vulva looked shinier and pinker than usual. Today they seemed to be mostly back to normal. I'm hoping if she had a quick heat overnight, he capitalized on it.
     
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  4. Dec 18, 2018
    Sheepshape

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    Now I don't currently have goats, but I have lots of sheep. What I would say is....these intact boys (sheep, goats, dogs, cats.....you name it) NEVER miss an opportunity. Almost every year my 'maiden flock.... small lambs and old retired girls....at least one of them has lambs. Rams jump the fences from miles and pay flying visits. Now goats are good climbers and much better at getting through fences than the Woolies....so they won't miss a doe on heat. If they are cycling, he'll take advantage.

    I hope he's peeing on his beard to make himself irresistible to the girls (just remembering how this habit used to 'gross out' OH!).

    Good luck to you and your girls.
     
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  5. Dec 18, 2018
    Shedinator

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    Oh, he smells downright awful :). I'm sure if they're in heat, he's capitalizing - when we went to pick him up, the owner had a doe in heat and he was doing absolutely everything he could to get her attention. My only real concern here is that I'm not personally catching them in heat, so it's hard to know whether they're cycling. 3 weeks ago today was the failed driveway date, so I'm out there watching every time I can spare to see if she's back in or not. Guess I just have to trust this buck to do his job.
     
  6. Dec 23, 2018
    Shedinator

    Shedinator Exploring the pasture

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    Me again! So I know the only real way to know if heat and breeding are happening is catching them in the act, but I'm trying to see if I'm reading things right, which leads me to yet another question.

    Do bucks get more aggressive with does when they're in heat?

    Last week we noticed he was getting really forceful at grain time, head butting them and grunting and so forth. At the time we thought it was just him establishing himself as the alpha. But then yesterday it stopped. The does vulvae also looked pinker during that time, but not significantly so.
     
  7. Dec 23, 2018
    B&B Happy goats

    B&B Happy goats Herd Master Golden Herd Member

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    I can only tell you my experiences. ...we bring the doe to the bucks place (but we have our own bucks) he may be trying to show macho male thing, but if your girls are ready for him, they will flag their tail, and often stand with their backside to his face to let him know she is ready...if your seeing pink he could be licking them or has bred them...sorry no direct answers for you, like i said sometime they do their thing at ight...hope you get to keep him around for awhile. ...
     
  8. Dec 29, 2018
    greybeard

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    A Baxter Black goat story.
    Goat Day After Thanksgiving
    Twenty years ago when we still lived in Brighton, Colo., I had invited several friends to have Thanksgiving at my house. (A tradition my insurance agent later said I could no longer afford).

    Each of my guests was gracious and had asked if they could bring anything. When Mac asked what he might contribute I suggested he bring the goats.

    “Goats?” he asked. I explained that Friday was Goat Day. We always built a big fire outside and spent the afternoon basting Spanish goat in sop made from Shriner’s beer. And, since the best Spanish goat came from west Texas, I figgered he could bring it.


    “But I’ll be flyin’ my own plane,” he sputtered.

    “Perfect,” I said, “They’ll only be in transit a short time.”

    Although he did his best to talk me out of it, I remained firm.

    So, that fateful Tuesday morning, he was out on the San Angelo airport tarmac takin’ the back seat out of his twin-engine Bonanza. The ever-vigilant Drug Enforcement Agency noted his suspicious behavior and took him in for questioning. His truthful explanation was so preposterous that they called me in Colorado to check his story.

    Upon his release, he flew to Junction, Texas, and picked up four Spanish goats. He hogtied each one and put it in a gunny sack which he taped around their neck. Sort of a goat-head bota bag. He spread newspaper and scattered straw just in case.

    Four hours later, Mac was swingin’ wide around the busy metropolitan Denver air space in touch with the Stapleton International tower. The goats were in full chorus and bleating each time he keyed the microphone.

    “This is twin Bonanza ... baa ... baa ... four zero ... blat ... blat ... seven three ... bleat ... Whiskey ... braaaack ....”


    We were waiting at the Tri County Airport when Mac dipped his wing and skidded down the runway. He crawled out on the wing. I noticed his hair was standing on end. He looked like he’d been castrating pigs in a metal building. You could almost hear his ears ringing. His eyes were glassy, his voice hoarse and he was vibrating.

    I opened the passenger side to the deafening chorus. The imprisoned smell of four enclosed goats hit me head on. The floorboard carpeting looked like Walden Pond.

    Goat day was the highlight of that Thanksgiving and Mac got proper recognition. But his plane was never the same. On hot west Texas afternoons when he planned to go flying he would spray Lysol, slice onions, sprinkle Old Grandad and cook cabbage in the cockpit to mask the scent. It never worked. No matter what he did, after riding in the plane for an hour he would smell like an army of goats had adopted him and marked him as their personal territory.

    He eventually sold the airplane at a yard sale. On a cold winter day.



    Baxter Black is a cowboy, veterinarian, poet and humorist. His website is www.baxter black.com.

    https://www.postregister.com/farman...cle_6da4ba48-42bb-5bc9-b392-49b98fd5e12d.html
     
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  9. Apr 26, 2019
    Ridgetop

    Ridgetop True BYH Addict

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    Greybeard: I love Baxter Black! We were lucky enough to see him in person some years ago reciting some of his poetry and readings! Also have one of his books.

    Sheep and goats when pen bred usually breed very early in the mornings and late in the evenings. We use a marking harness and crayons when pen breeding. The does and ewes are usually marked in the morning when we go out to feed. I saw this too late but by now you should have big pregnant goats, or kids running around!